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From: 7v5w7go9ub0o <7v5w7go9ub0o@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-hardened@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-hardened] Re: hardened workstation - is that worth it?
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:03:12
Message-Id: 492CAE52.5050709@gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-hardened] hardened workstation - is that worth it? by Jan Klod
1 Jan Klod wrote:
2 > Suppose, I want to take some extra precautions and set up PaX&co and MAC on a
3 > workstation with Xorg and other nice KDE apps (only some of which should be
4 > granted access to files in folder X). I would like to read others opinion, if
5 > I can get considerable security improvements or I will have to make that much
6 > of exceptions to those good rules, as it makes protection too useless?
7 >
8 > Regards,
9 > Jan
10 >
11 >
12
13 Depends upon your definition of hardening, I guess.
14
15 I run the "old" hardened toolchain, grsecurity-enhanced hardened kernel,
16 rbac control, and jails for anything that accesses the LAN/WAN.(heh... I
17 even chroot and kill dhcpcd after 5 seconds). Avira has hundreds of
18 Linux rootkit signatures in its database, so I run Avira and Dazuko
19 realtime/on-access scanning on my /home directory, the chroot jails, and
20 on the portage workspace used during download and compilation.
21
22 I presume that for a desktop user, most attacks come in through the
23 browser, and/or extensions, plugins (e.g. flash), BHO's, etc. Something
24 could also come through the distribution chain from a compromised or
25 spoofed source - therefor the signature scanning.
26
27 - I presume that pax and/or ssp will protect me against memory attacks
28 that may come in through a L/WAN connection.
29
30 - If the L/WAN attack comes in through, say, a browser exploit or
31 backdoor it will be confined by RBAC to the areas I trained it to
32 access, and no more. That would be the jail.
33
34 - If the browser tries to "jail break", it will run up against the anti
35 jailbreak hardening provided by grsecurity, and be terminated.
36
37 - grsecurity blocks writing to /dev/mem, kmem, port.
38
39 Judging by the other posts here, someone who knows what he is doing can
40 have my box.
41
42 Well..... yes! - nothing is 100%. But I'm not trying to protect
43 against him.... I'm worried about 95%: the 0-day browser bugs,
44 compromised extensions, etc. that may allow a Trojan to try its stuff,
45 or may allow an inpatient script-kiddee to have a shell on a Linux box
46 that doesn't have this kernel and binary hardening; that doesn't run
47 applications in hardened jails.

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Re: [gentoo-hardened] Re: hardened workstation - is that worth it? Alex Efros <powerman@××××××××××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-hardened] Re: hardened workstation - is that worth it? atoth@××××××××××.hu