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I'm aware of Qubes. But as long as it is based on rpms, I won't make the |
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time investment necessary for studying it. |
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It would be good if Joanna would realize, that a source based rolling |
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distro is easier to handle for their purposes. I haven't aware this was |
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addressed on the mailing list. BTW Laszlo Zrubecz is a Hungarian guy. But |
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I don't know him. |
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Handling the firefox situation at the ebuild level is pretty simple, since |
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we have pax-marking available now for use. The real solution would be to |
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teach upstream about security and proper memory handling. As it was |
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mentioned by paxteam and others as well. Like it is not just erroneous |
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from the security point of view, but the whole concept of fixed address |
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mmap is not correct. |
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It would be good not to think about disposable VMs because of |
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security-blind applications. I still haven't give it up. I hope 2012 will |
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be better! :-) |
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Happy New year: |
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Dw. (Central European Timezone) |
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-- |
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dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057 |
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Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057 |
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2012.Január 1.(V) 01:39 időpontban 7v5w7go9ub0o ezt írta: |
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> On 12/31/11 08:43, "T?th Attila" wrote: |
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>> Isn't it miserable to see, that as time is passing by, more and more |
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>> important softwares (java, python, libreoffice, firefox) conflict |
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>> with more and more PAX restrictions? I would expect exactly the |
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>> opposite. But it seems, that developers become less and less aware |
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>> (or care less) about security. |
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>> Nowdays I would rather run libreoffice and firefox in a jail. But I |
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>> have no time to set up an environment and grsec policy for it. |
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> Heh...better yet; using VMs - with optional hardware assistance. |
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> Joanna Rutkowska of <http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/> , who is |
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> well-known as an effective white-hat cracker, is developing a "secure" |
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> OS she calls Qubes <http://qubes-os.org/Home.html> |
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> She's presently using fedora as the Linux source distribution, but |
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> there's been a lot of enthusiastic discussion among some of the beta |
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> testers about changing to Gentoo |
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> <https://groups.google.com/group/qubes-devel/browse_thread/thread/588399cdd43da28c#> |
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> and some of these guys seem poised to go for it. |
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> Should the switch occur, one would painlessly have hardened Gentoo VMs, |
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> managed by a XEN bare-metal hypervisor. |
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> In the case of Firefox 9.0 (actually, now Firefox 9.0.1), one could |
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> safely continue with Firefox 8.0 in temporary ("disposable") VMs 'til |
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> the Gentoo developers (who are volunteers, generously donating personal |
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> time) get a chance to address the issue. |
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