Re: [gentoo-hardened] ipv6 on by default for hardened profile

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 06/26/12 20:42, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) wrote:
> El 26/06/12 07:43, Michael Orlitzky escribió:
>> It's easy enough to set USE="-ipv6" manually of course, but the same
>> argument works for USE="ipv6". So, I think the default should be what
>> most people want; i.e. what the fewest people will have to override. Do
>> most hardened machines use ipv6?
> These here is a nice fallacy it is called Argumentum ad Populum and
> doesn't stands. Why? Because these is about having an usable system.
> If you disable ipv6 on the profiles users on ipv6 only systems can't
> then use the stages since they need to fetch system to rebuild the
> packages and for that they need ipv6. So, since from a functionality
> point of view enabling it won't leave on an unusable system after
> unpacking the stage to users of either ipv4 or dual stack systems the
> USE will be on.

I'm not using "most people..." to support my argument; "most people
don't use ipv6" *is* my argument, so it's hardly a fallacy. The defaults
should be what cause the least amount of pain to the fewest people.

Anyway, I think I missed this earlier, and it makes the point moot: if
the hardened stages *must* be built with the default USE flags, then
ipv6 should be on. If they must, I think that's probably not ideal but
orthogonal to the current discussion.