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From: Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
To: gentoo-hardened@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Profile switch: hardened to non-hardened?
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:44:19
Message-Id: 1230673455.5778.11.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Profile switch: hardened to non-hardened? by Grant
1 On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:31 -0800, Grant wrote:
2 > >> >> What else would you recommend for me?
3 > >> >
4 > >> > I'd suggest to completely ignore the grsec (low/med/high) options and
5 > >> > use the Hardened Gentoo level in the hardened-sources all the time.
6 > >> >
7 > >> > Xorg should not cause problems unless you are stuck using 3rd party
8 > >> > binary drivers. Most of us are using a hardened X setup.
9 > >>
10 > >> Excellent, thank you. You think the "Hardened Gentoo (workstation)"
11 > >> and "Hardened Gentoo (server)" grsecurity setups are adequate
12 > >> low-maintenance solutions?
13 > >
14 > >
15 > > Re: "low maintenance"
16 > > I'm not sure we can dumb down the hardening efforts anymore than we
17 > > already have. It's all pretty transparent and seems mostly like a normal
18 > > install of anything else. The ELF's are just smarter.
19 >
20 > Low maintenance definitely. Is the security OK?
21
22 Please think before you type and hit send.
23
24 Pretend you have 0 extra security now. Then you take an entire project
25 that devotes itself to proactive security measures. It enables features
26 that are security based. So 0 vs 1...
27
28 > >> What does a hardened profile do for my server?
29 > >
30 > > Enables things to match the kernel options/blocks things that conflict.
31 >
32 > Is the grsecurity "Hardened Gentoo (workstation)" setting useful
33 > without the hardened profile?
34
35 Of course it is. Is your make menuconfig (read help) broken?
36
37 We are also getting way off topic here and this thread is going on for a
38 week. the orig question was answered with a simple "yes". If you have
39 lots of interactive new questions, jump on irc where you can learn more
40 in an hour than you can in two months of playing ping/pong on the list.

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