Re: [gentoo-java] Gentoo Java / Apache Tomcat choices vs FreeBSD

[Joshua Nichols]

Jon Severinsson wrote:
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> I have no idea why there is no (package-masked) Apache 2.2 in portage, I
> would have liked that to, but I would like to defend the gentoo-java
> team, who I think are doing a wonderful job. Currently they are very
> busy trying to do the java-config migration required for Java 1.5 (and
> Java 1.6), which is an impressive undertaking considering their lack of
> manpower. (see https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki)
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Indeed. We are quite busy with preparing for the migration, and will be 
busy with the actual migration once it begins. In the meantime, we are 
in the midst of a package freeze.

As for Apache-2.2 (and in general) ... it is usually worth checking 
bugzilla for bugs about version bumps. In this case, a quick search yields:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114232

> After that I assume they will refocus on rev bumps such as Tomcat 5.5.
> For the impatient you can take a look at the experimental overlay, where
> Tomcat 5.5 already is present.
> (see http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/experimental.xml)
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The maintainer of tomcat went MIA several months ago. Recently, one of 
our users has been giving tomcat-5.5 some lovin in the experimental 
overlay. He also began work on updating mod_jk to go with it, but I'm 
not sure what the status is on that.

> As for jdk's, currently only 5 is fully supported (blackdown-jdk-1.3,
> blackdown-jdk-1.4, ibm-jdk-bin-1.4, sun-jdk-1.3, and sun-jdk-1.4), but
> in addition there is 8 more available if you have special
> needs/interests (compaq-jdk-1.3, ibm-jdk-bin-1.5, jrockit-jdk-bin-1.5,
> sun-jdk-1.2, sun-jdk-1.5, sun-jdk-1.6, kaffe-1.1, sablevm-1.11), and we
> are still not counting jre's (all above, blackdown-jre-1.3,
> blackdown-jre-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.5, compaq-jre-1.3,
> ibm-jre-bin-1.4, sablevm-1.1, jamvm-1.3, jamvm-1.4, ikvm-0.14,
> ikvm-0.20, ikvm-bin-0.14), in total 25 options, counting only the one's
> I know about (there's probably more, whose name doesn't include jre, jdk
> or vm, and I thus missed). I wouldn't say there is a lack of choices,
> though I would like kaffe and sablevm better supported.
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One day, I'd like to be able to build our entire Java stack with a free 
VM. Unfortunately, a good number of packages use com.sun.* classes 
directly, which wouldn't be available from non-sun VMs.

> Michael Vince skrev:
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>> Hi all,
>> I just installed Gentoo on my laptop after having FreeBSD as my desktop
>> for a long time.
>> I felt Gentoo would be my best shot at using and enjoying a Linux
>> distribution for my desktop, as Gentoo promises a lot of freedom and
>> choice.
>> All up its pretty darn good but I have to say I am a bit disappointed
>> with the Tomcat/Apache/Java choices Gentoo portage has to offer.
>>
>> The main reason I am interested in Gentoo Linux was the fact I can use a
>> Java supplied from Sun as an alternative to some of the FreeBSD native
>> Java compiled via ports with Tomcat.  I have servers running under
>> Apache2.0.55 and Apache2.2.0 with Tomcat 5.5.x
>>
>> My main problems are there is not a full set of choices of  Apache that
>> being just 1.3.x or Apache 2.0.x and no Apache 2.2.x.
>> Apache 2.2.x has some great new features like a built in AJP module for
>> linking Tomcat and Apache together with out needing the external mod_ajp
>> module.
>> Secondly there is only Tomcat 5.0.x in portage, in FreeBSD there is
>> Tomcat3,Tomcat4,Tomcat41, Tomcat5 and Tomcat55
>> I do have to admit I think I will be happy with even just 1 Java in
>> Linux since I know it comes from Sun for Linux which I expecting should
>> be of a good quality. Believe it or not but doing a 'cd
>> /usr/ports/java/; ls | grep -c  jdk"  in FreeBSD returns a count of 15
>> Java choices, admittedly half of then being the Linux ones for use via
>> the Linux kernel emulation.
>>
>>
We should have all the major JDKs and JREs. If we are missing some, 
please feel free to file requests on our bugzilla.

>> I installed Gentoo on my laptop with a bit of excitement and was going
>> to start doing some benchmarks and testing with Apache 2.2 and Tomcat
>> 5.5 just to find I will have to start manually building it all and
>> manually installing it all my self.
>>
>> My question is does any one have any idea of when Apache projects such
>> as Tomcat 5.5 and Apache 2.2 will be in portage?
>>
- Josh
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