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Peter B. West wrote: |
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> I think you're missing my point. Java 5 works, and is, for practical |
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> purposes, forward compatible with 1,4, with the exception of 'enum'. If |
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> that is so, why not a flag 'java5', that triggers source source 1.4 on |
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> packages that need it? The system JVM is 5, and Bob's your uncle. |
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> What's the system-level stability issue? |
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Java 5 is *not* API compatible with 1.4. |
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We already have an overlay for using 1.5: |
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http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/axxo-overlay |
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As far as stability goes, I think 1.5 is more stable than 1.4 as far as |
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for example applets go. |
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> This is not a technical issue, it's an ideological issue, as I said |
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> before. This is, in fact, quite explicit in the Gentoo documentation. I |
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> suggest that subscribers to the "conspiracy-theory-theory" (I never used |
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> the word) read the "Gentoo social contract" |
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> <http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml>, including the definition |
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> of "free software" <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html>. |
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> I suggest, further, that the Gentoo folks in this forum come clean about |
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> this when asked in good faith about using Java 5 on Gentoo. The answer |
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> is along these lines: Java 5 will not be supported on Gentoo until a 1.5 |
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> JVM is available under a Stallman-approved licence. The genuine options |
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> for J5 users are to scrap the Gentoo Java support and maintain your own |
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> Java environment, or to abandon Gentoo. |
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> I see that there is yet another enquiry on the list about using J5. Do |
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> that user a favour and tell him why he can't get a supported J5 |
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> environment on Gentoo, so that he can then make informed decisions. If |
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> you guys are embarrassed by the Gentoo ideology, change it or leave. If |
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> not, present it honestly, instead of spouting this deliberately |
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> misleading BS about system stability issues. It's leaving users with |
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> the impression that J5 is unstable, which it patently is not. |
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> Peter |
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We already have a Java 5 environment for which you will get support from |
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us: It is called the axxo-overlay. |
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Regards, |
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Petteri |