Gentoo Archives: gentoo-java

From: Kyle Pan <kyle.j.pan@×××××.com>
To: Serkan Kaba <serkan@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-java@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-java] Re: Java/Gentoo IDE integration-------about Jython version
Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 15:10:54
Hi Serkan,

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 16:56, Serkan Kaba <serkan@g.o> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06-05-2011 18:10, Kyle Pan wrote: >> Hi Serkan, >> >> During the past few days I was  putting my hands  to write demos for >> querying java-config vars and here's a issue aroused during finding >> documentation to read I'd like to discuss with you. >> >> I want to make sure that can I base my Java part of work on Jython >> 2.5. Currently, in gentoo portage tree  there're three main versions >> of Jython, namely 2.1,2.2 and 2.5.(under dev-java/jython). The current >> marked stable one is 2.2. So at first I intended to base my Java part >> development on 2.2. However,  I browsed all around the Jython official >> page(,  but cannot find documentation >> specialized to 2.2(even such basic info like which Python version it >> implements , etc). All documentation currently on is >> for 2.5 release. >> According to Jython website, 2.5 is the latest major release and >> highly recommended by Jython project, recognized as a "major leap >> forward"( and the most >> important is that it is  well-documented. Also, It implements Python >> 2.5.(,Status and roadmap section), >> while currently I cannot find Jython 2.2 implements which version of >> Python. >> >> So I'd strongly prefer to base my Java part development on Jython 2.5. >>  Firstly, If I base it on 2.2 , the doc I can learn from and rely on >> would be a big problem for me. I cannot find  documentation >> specialized for Jython 2.2 . All well documentation currently I can >> find on Jython website is for 2.5 now. Secondly, compared to 2.5, 2,2 >> is an old release. 2.5 is trend and officially promoted one. >> The only concern about using 2.5 is it is currently marked as ~x86 and >> ~amd64, but I don't think it's a big problem because it's the trend >> and as time goes on 2.5 will be marked stable, and I believe it won't >> take too long to happen. >> >> Of course I will also take it into consideration and try my best to >> make my code work both on 2.2 and 2.5. (That's the best. However, >> since 2.5 is "major forward" to 2.2, the differences between them may >> be not small, so it may be not easy work to make the codes compatible >> with both. ) If this situation happens, I'd  prefer guarantee >> compatibility to 2.5. >> >> So If it's acceptable, I  start to code using Jython 2.5. However, it >> would always be better to consult you before any decision is made, I >> think:) >> >> Thanks >> > > Hi Kyle, > > It's nice to hear back from you. So I understand that you're making > progress. In my opinion, depending on bleeding edge software isn't a > problem, so go ahead. These 2 versions are in different slots and > considered as 2 different packages (Side note: Think about how to treat > them in your plugin) > > Another thing I want to mention is about communication. It's best to > communicate via our gentoo-java ML instead of personal emails (unless > there's something *personal*). You can find info on how to subscribe in >
Ok. From now on I'll post to/CC gentoo-java when appropriate.
> > Did you decide on the name? (I have a suggestion of GenEclipse) I'll > create the SVN tree and get your commit rights setup. Once that's done. > I would like to have your demo codes online as well. They,in the future, > will evolve into the plugin. This also makes your progress visible.
Though I had proposed JarImporter, GenEclipse is better , I think. So choose GenEclipse would be ok.
> - -- > Sincerely, > Serkan KABA > Gentoo Developer > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - > > iEYEARECAAYFAk3FCTsACgkQRh6X64ivZaKCggCeNNtHAoZphadv6hWAXHDJsxP1 > N6kAnRJgfAr9xV1FfJ1w1g3acXf2ONHF > =cE6v > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
-- With Best Regards, Kyle Pan