Gentoo Archives: gentoo-kernel

From: "Anthony G. Basile" <basile@××××××××××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-kernel@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:24:59
Message-Id: 51C8D589.9070002@opensource.dyc.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions by Greg KH
1 On 06/24/2013 12:27 PM, Greg KH wrote:
2 > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 08:45:25AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
3 >> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:42:44 -0700
4 >> Greg KH <greg@×××××.com> wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 02:45:16AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
7 >>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:13:03 -0700
8 >>>> Greg KH <gregkh@g.o> wrote:
9 >>>>
10 >>>>> Great! But as only the latest version released is "stable",
11 >>>>> that's all that should stick around, right?
12 >>>>
13 >>>> Tricky decision to make. Do we really want to force people's kernel
14 >>>> sources to unmerge every single time you push a new version? Which
15 >>>> on its own turn, forces them to build and install the new kernel.
16 >>>
17 >>> If they are following the vanilla kernels, isn't that what people
18 >>> expect? The latest stable-kernel-of-the-week, as that's what I'm
19 >>> releasing. They don't have to do an update if they don't want to :)
20 >>
21 >> If we don't keep around other ebuilds their sources will unexpectedly
22 >> unmerge upon a dependency clean; they can only stop it if they see it
23 >> in the list of packages that will be unmerged, and do something to
24 >> specifically keep them.
25 >
26 > True, so we can keep around 3-4 older ebuilds if needed, per kernel
27 > release. But who really does a dependency clean these days, I've never
28 > done one :)
29 >
30 > So, what's the next step? Should I announce the change to -dev? Anyone
31 > else really object to it? Other thoughts?
32 >
33 > thanks,
34 >
35 > greg k-h
36 >
37
38 Greg,
39
40 This sounds okay to me, but let's see what the lead says. You're best
41 suited to decide which versions to keep or toss, so as far as I'm
42 concerned, just do what you've been doing as I see from the ChangeLog.
43
44 There is, however, some disagreement about whether we should still
45 continue stabilizing vanilla-sources, but we can debate that on -dev.
46
47 --Tony
48
49 --
50 Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D.
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