Gentoo Archives: gentoo-kernel

From: "Anthony G. Basile" <basile@××××××××××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-kernel@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:55:31
Message-Id: 51C566C7.1030400@opensource.dyc.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions by Greg KH
1 On 06/21/2013 11:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:
2 > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:54:46PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
3 >> The bug where this was discussed is
4 >>
5 >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338739
6 >
7 > Thanks for the link, unfortunatly, things have changed since then, with
8 > stable kernel releases happening much more frequently now (instead of
9 > about ever 2-3 weeks, it's now, 1-2 releases a week.
10 >
11 > So the chance for an arch team to mark anything is going to be tough.
12 >
13 > greg k-h
14 >
15
16 I've been following, but I can't say I've been following closely. I'm
17 on the stable{,-commits}@vger list and the rate at which this stuff is
18 coming is too fast for human consumption.
19
20 We could just drop stabilization of vanilla-sources and have people
21 follow ~arch. That might be closer to the meaning of ~testing vs stable
22 in other packages: other upstreams push out releases they consider
23 stable, but we don't consider them stable within Gentoo until our QA
24 team tests.
25
26 Another reason for dropping all vanilla-sources to ~arch is that we have
27 some Gentoo specific needs that upstream will not and should not accept,
28 eg we are making greater use of extended attributes in our package
29 management, so we need end-to-end copying of xattrs. This means
30 preserving certain namespaces (beyond security.* and trusted.*) on tmpfs
31 for emerge. Gentoo users that use vanilla-sources will loose those
32 xattr values making vanilla-sources ~ with respect to the rest of Gentoo.
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35 --
36 Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D.
37 Chair of Information Technology
38 D'Youville College
39 Buffalo, NY 14201
40 (716) 829-8197

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