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From: Leszek Tarkowski <leszek.tarkowski@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-laptop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-laptop] amd turion laptop with good linux support (but i run gentoo so good gentoo support is the point)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:37:29
Message-Id: 704cd30c0601192336i3169e359o@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-laptop] amd turion laptop with good linux support (but i run gentoo so good gentoo support is the point) by Mike Benson
1 I would sugguest buing something else than turion-based notebook.
2 Centrino platform is very well supported. I would recommend IBM or
3 MaxData (german company - suse fully supported on some models, you can
4 buy it without windows) notebooks.
5
6 On 18/01/06, Mike Benson <mike@×××××××××.au> wrote:
7 > OK , I have an Asus Z81K, which is the barebones version of the A2000K.
8 >
9 > AMD64 support works, by and large, well in Linux. When you're only doing stuff
10 > that works, it's a pleasure.
11 >
12 > Don't pan NDisWrapper too much, with a 64-bit Windows driver, I've had minimal
13 > problems with it. Performance actually seems to be better than my wife's IBM
14 > T42p, using the 32-bit Windows driver.
15 >
16 > But,
17 >
18 > * You are critically dependent on the quality and standards conformance of the
19 > BIOS, especially in areas like APIC and frequency control (I still don't have
20 > freq control working, after a year). The Asus is very bad in this respect
21 >
22 > * I would strongly suggest you only get a Turion-based system. My system
23 > (processor is a Mobile 3700+) is inclined to overheat in summer, if I'm
24 > re-emerging gcc or something else particularly large, although removing "-j2"
25 > from the flags in make.conf improved that somewhat.
26 >
27 > * I have ATI graphics (mobility 9700) and it's a pain. The only way I've ever
28 > been able to get a stable X display without artifacts, snow and noise is to
29 > use the binary ATI drivers, which usually lag kernel development, and do not
30 > install nicely or easily (although Gentoo seems to be making a better fist
31 > of it than Fedora or Kubuntu).
32 >
33 > * You will have general problems with stuff that isn't ported yet. Either
34 > because the developers can't get their heads around playing nicely with data
35 > types, and not assuming things (particularly pointers) are 32 bits, or don't
36 > use a recent version of autoconf that handles --enable-suffix (so things go
37 > in lib64), or in the case of propietary, binary only things, because they
38 > haven't got round to doing (or haven't be able to, or won't, do) a 64-bit
39 > port. Flash, and multimedia codecs are probably the biggest gotchas here (and
40 > don't flame me about WDNNS Flash! Like it or lump it, swf is a part of the
41 > web landscape, and sometimes can't be ignored)
42 >
43 > * PCMCIA was unstable for a long while. I haven't tried it lately, but expect
44 > it has improved in recent kernels. Ditto for firewire (but at least that
45 > worked). USB has worked very well.
46 >
47 > * Be prepared to build your own kernel. Be prepared to live inside testing
48 > (enable ~amd64 in your use flags, and sometimes even ~x86 for certain
49 > packages). Even today, running AMD64 is being on the bleeding edge. As a
50 > consolation, most bugs are fixed quickly, at least into testing.
51 >
52 > * I've been running Gentoo about a month, after nearly a year with the machine
53 > running Fedora (Core 2 and 3) and a couple of weeks with Kubuntu
54 > (unresolvable display problems forced me off that). I seem to be rebuilding
55 > or adding some packages every day, but it's kinda more fun than running yum
56 > over and over again. And it was the lagging KDE support that drove me off
57 > Fedora, I don't have that problem with Gentoo.
58 >
59 > Hope this helps,
60 >
61 > Mike
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65 >
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