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On 23:13 Sat 10 Jul , Matt Turner wrote: |
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> To summarize the hardware collection |
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> - 5 MIPS III/Loongson little-endian STMicroelectronics systems (Lemote, Gdium) |
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> - 11 MIPS IV big-endian SGI systems |
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> - 3 MIPS IV little-endian Cobalt systems |
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> - 2 MIPS64 selectable-endian Broadcom systems |
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> |
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> What do you guys think? |
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Hi Matt, |
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Sorry for my interference, but I want to write some random thoughts |
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that come and go, for while now. It's good that you asked about what |
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hardware we have these days. Btw, I have two SGI O2, a r5k and a r10k. |
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The r10k is useless for linux (unless something hanpened inside the last |
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~2 years that I served in the army and was away). The r5k is in good |
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condition but *extremely slow*. Once upon a time, when the mips stable |
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keyword wasn't dropped yet, I wanted to become a mips arch tester, but |
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found it extremely difficult to work with my r5k, cause it was very very |
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slow as I said before. I tried to find cheap and better mips hardware |
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but with no luck. Those days, Lemote just started to exist, and I |
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couldn't find any reseller in Europe. The SGI stopped direct support of |
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o2/origin hardware(unless I'm wrong), which makes it difficult for |
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someone to find spare parts in case something happens to a SGI machine |
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(unless you 're in US). |
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From the side of the gentoo linux developer/arch tester/(at least from |
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my side), we really need new, good and fast hardware in order to work |
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productively. For a big project, such the Gentoo Mips Project, we need |
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more people with good and probably also different hardware. But! For |
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example, it's very difficult to do any gentoo development(ebuild |
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writing/testing, arch testing, compiling stuff, even to build stages with |
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catalyst), with embedded hardware or with old SGI hardware. |
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So, my question is, what hardware can a gentoo dev get these days, in |
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order to work productively? And another question, a project such as the |
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gentoo MIPS project, should see where the future goes and not to live |
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in the past, supporting old hardware crap, so where does the MIPS future |
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go anyway? Will it go to embedded devices only? Will it also go to |
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desktop systems/production servers? |
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(I really believe that the gentoo MIPS project died the last years cause |
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people didn't have the right hardware to work) |
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-- |
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Panagiotis Christopoulos ( pchrist ) |
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( Gentoo Lisp Project ) |