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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Reconsider the license of the "g" logo (item for Trustees meeting)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 00:45:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22579.34562.473649.127409@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <robbat2-20161120T203214-705878341Z@orbis-terrarum.net>

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>>>>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Robin H Johnson wrote:

> TL;DR: 
> 1. Move artwork to CC-BY v4
> 2. update name/logo page to say 'trademark licensing'

From reading the long version I guess that in 1. above you mean
CC-BY-SA (not CC-BY)?

> [...]

> So where do we go?
> 0. Educate users that they are taking two licenses (copyright & trademark)
> 1. Change copyright license on all Gentoo-owned to BY-SA (v4, further below) 
> 2. EXPLICITLY grant trademark licenses (most of this is done in the
>    name/logo page already):
> 2.1. Non-commercial works: no Foundation permission needed.
> 2.2. Non-transformative Commercial works with Foundation permission only.
> 2.3. Highly-Transformative commercial works UNCERTAIN (I'm not decided).
> 3. Note that the artwork remains available under prior versions of the
>    license as well [6]
> 4. Note that the name/logo guidelines page is the trademark usage licensing.

I agree with all of these points.

About 2.3, I don't see why this needs to be distinguished from 2.2.
Who decides what is highly-transformative? (So anyone distributing
such works might be well-advised to ask the Foundation in any case.)

> Why CC v4?
> - v4 requires all modifications be noted [1]
> - v4 BY-SA (but not BY-NC-SA) is GPLv3 compatible [3]
> - v4 auto-reinstatement on violations [4]
> - v4 trademark explicitly-not-licensed [5]
> - v3+v4 "no endorsement clause" to block advertising [2]

The only reason I had suggested CC-BY-SA version 2.5 or 3.0 was
compatibility to the bulk of existing documentation which tends to be
under CC-BY-SA-3.0 (e.g. the wiki).

This is not really a problem though, because CC licenses have a
built-in upgrade clause allowing distribution of derived works under
any later version of the same license. So a work combining a v3 text
and a v4 logo can always be distributed under v4.

Ulrich

> [1] https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions#Modifications_and_adaptations_must_be_indicated
> [2] https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions#.22No_endorsement.22_clause_included
> [3] https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/licensing-considerations/compatible-licenses/
> [4] https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions#Automatic_restoration_of_rights_after_termination_if_license_violations_corrected
> [5] https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions#Trademark_and_patent_explicitly_not_licensed
> [6] https://creativecommons.org/faq/#what-if-i-change-my-mind-about-using-a-cc-license

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-21 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-07 14:20 [gentoo-nfp] Reconsider the license of the "g" logo (item for Trustees meeting) Ulrich Mueller
2016-11-07 17:28 ` David Abbott
2016-11-20 22:09 ` Robin H. Johnson
2016-11-21 23:45   ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2016-11-23 23:56   ` Matthew Thode
2016-11-24  0:13     ` Ulrich Mueller
2016-11-24  1:03       ` Alice Ferrazzi

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