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On 2018.06.02 18:11, Ulrich Mueller wrote: |
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> >>>>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2018, Roy Bamford wrote: |
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> > On 2018.06.02 15:40, Ulrich Mueller wrote: |
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> >> My remaining point is purely about lowering the quorum from 1/3 to |
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> >> 1/10. The rationale is simply that *none* of the AGMs ever had a |
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> >> quorum. |
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> > Would this proposed change actually fix that? |
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> > I've not checked meeting logs. Members should be voiced. |
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> I went back as far as 2010. The only meeting where a precise quorum |
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> of members was actually determined was in 2016, where 19 out of 95 |
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> entitled to vote were present. So yes, at least for that meeting it |
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> would have fixed it. |
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> Ulrich |
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Ulrich, |
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How do you know they were present? |
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Idling in an IRC channel is not the same as being in a room where a |
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meeting is being conducted. e.g. I'm in #gentoo-trustees 24/7 but I'm not |
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present 24/7. |
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I would object strongly to a nick count being used to determine a quorum. |
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Members would need to respond to a ping in the channel. |
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Not having a quorum prevents a vote of members taking place. However, |
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there has never been a need for a vote of members at any meeting of |
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members. |
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Due to the difficulties of counting both votes and members present, I |
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don't think an IRC 'show of hands' can ever be relied on. |
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I'm not against the proposed change, I just think its changing from |
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one value that is not useful, to a different value that is also not |
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useful. |
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Regards, |
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Roy Bamford |
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