Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Cc: www@×××××××××.org, Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo e.V. (Was: Gentoo Foundation Trustees nominations)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:42:00
Message-Id: 20170713174149.c75c305582a1140475b614fe@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: Gentoo Foundation and Gentoo e.V. (Was: Gentoo Foundation Trustees nominations) by "M. J. Everitt"
1 On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:14:59 +0100 M. J. Everitt wrote:
2 > On 12/07/17 18:04, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
3 > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:53:54 +0200 Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera
4 > > (klondike) wrote:
5 > >> Although the Gentoo Foundation is based on the USA it's activities
6 > >> (through the different developers) entail most parts of the world, for
7 > >> example the Gentoo Foundation sponsored the Gentoo project's presence at
8 > >> FOSDEM through the adquisition of give aways for marketing. Having
9 > >> people with knowledge of how other law systems work would be helpful in
10 > >> many ways, on one side by allowing the Foundation help promote
11 > >> activities in other countries, on the other by being able to direct the
12 > >> Foundation if issues to Gentoo developers happen on them.
13 > > As far as I know there is one such organization already, Gentoo
14 > > e.V. in Germany:
15 > > https://gentoo-ev.org/wiki/Main_Page
16 > >
17 > > As far as I understand from their wiki (it's in German, so forgive
18 > > me if I misunderstood something, mein Deutsch ist noch schwach)
19 > > Gentoo e.V. is a partner of the Foundation focused on supporting
20 > > various Gentoo-related events (conferences) and selling Gentoo
21 > > merchandise. And looks like they are doing a good job judging from
22 > > the presence on various conferences.
23 > >
24 > > If I'm understanding correctly, "e.V." stands for "eingetragener
25 > > Verein" meaning "registered association", so Gentoo e.V. is
26 > > basically a non-for-profit club with paid membership which promotes
27 > > Gentoo and helps it here and there.
28 > >
29 > > I'm not sure how Gentoo e.V. and the Foundation are connected; wiki
30 > > of the former says "Gentoo e.V. is a partner of the Gentoo
31 > > Foundation", though I'm not sure if this is a partnership by
32 > > spirit or some legal binding.
33 > >
34 > > If they are not legally connected maybe it is a good idea to do
35 > > this, or may be there are good reasons to keep the status quo. I do
36 > > not have a strong opinion here, but it will be interesting to hear
37 > > thought of people who understand these matters better than me.
38 > >
39 > > Anyway it will be good to promote Gentoo e.V. more (maybe have an
40 > > English site? :)). Frankly I learned that this is a separate
41 > > organization only during FOSDEM dinner discussions this year.
42 >
43 > Is there any mechanism for joining / supporting the European body at
44 > all? I, too, had done some very basic research prior to FOSDEM and think
45 > that those of us based in Europe might be better affiliated to that
46 > organisation than the American one... potentially.
47
48 Gentoo e.V. have the Membersip application form available here[1]
49 (in German). It was updated last time at Aug 8th 2016, so this is a
50 good sign.
51
52 The membership fee is 6€ quarterly or 20€ annually. Bank account
53 IBAN/BIC is available here. Postal address is present in the form,
54 maybe it can be sent via an e-mail as well.
55
56 The contact page[2] contains an e-mail: www@×××××××××.org and bank
57 account information (IBAN/BIC), the same one as the application
58 form. I suppose that this account may be used for donations as well
59 as for membership fees. But better ask them via contact e-mail.
60
61 There two mail lists available[3]: announce and discussion, but I
62 can't access the archives. Whether they are not public by mistake
63 or on purpose, I don't know. Looks like anyone can subscribe to
64 them, the third list is for members only.
65
66 I'm CC'ing to this discussion the Gentoo e.V. official contact and
67 Sebastian Pipping (sping) because he is listed as the Gentoo e.V.
68 Chairman at the contact page (other two persons are not on the
69 active developers list). He should be able to give you authoritative
70 answers here.
71
72 [1] https://www.gentoo-ev.org/w/images/d/df/Mitgliedsantrag.pdf
73 [2] https://gentoo-ev.org/wiki/Kontakt
74 [3] https://lists.gentoo-ev.org/listinfo
75
76 Best regards,
77 Andrew Savchenko