Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 02:06:03
Message-Id: 1211508357.30194.21.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes by Luca Barbato
1 On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 03:26 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
2 >
3 > > I am not a fan of bureaucracy, but I am a fan of structure and
4 > > organization. Without you get chaos, and we have that on so many fronts.
5 >
6 > We got chaos because some people are too attached to the letter of
7 > laws/policy/writtenpaper from my point of view.
8
9 Which I tried to fight. But bottom line, people are open to change
10 things, but not retroactively. Thus until someone does something, and we
11 move forward with elections. We are stuck in a quagmire.
12
13 > > Um, did you not see all the emails where I was fighting GLEP 39? You
14 > > mentioned the word rules. Which the council is at the top of all. Yet
15 > > the council doesn't seem to want to enforce their own rules against
16 > > themselves.
17 >
18 > Check the council ml.
19
20 Ok will do, guess I should have been commenting there. Seemed like most
21 conversations about that were taking place on -project.
22
23 > I followed the discussion on -project but I won't comment there, I
24 > already gave my opinion on the -council ml.
25
26 Ok great. Thank you for your input on the matter. But at the end of the
27 day, opinions are moot. What action is being taken? Is the council
28 staying or going?
29
30 > > It is a NPO organization, 501c6. Inc has nothing to do with the type of
31 > > entity. No more than anything else in the name. Incorporation does not
32 > > imply profit.
33 >
34 > I was referring to Gentoo Technologies inc.
35
36 Yes I read something about past issues wrt to embedded Gentoo. Not sure
37 it was a very long time ago. But that entity hasn't exists for some
38 time. Predates foundation's creation.
39 http://www.nmprc.state.nm.us/cgi-bin/prcdtl.cgi?2055978+GENTOO+TECHNOLOGIES+INC
40
41
42 > > Based on how it seemed Daniel operated in the past. I don't think he
43 > > asked anyone's permission when he resigned and created the foundation.
44 > > Thus I would find it surprising for him to poll, and act on majority wrt
45 > > to the type of foundation he was to create.
46 >
47 > In short, the 6 one was quicker to get, at least that's what I recall.
48
49 Yes, the other takes 5 years, and the 5 years is a probationary period
50 so to speak.
51
52 > > In how it functions, and it's mission. Not the type of legal entity it
53 > > is.
54 >
55 > c.f. the freebsd nfp
56
57 Which I have looked into allot. They fund developer travel via grants.
58 And do allot of things. Not to mention have like $400k, and have
59 investments. Money market account, etc.
60
61 Soo many things we are likely years away from or decades at this pace.
62
63 --
64 William L. Thomson Jr.
65 amd64/Java/Trustees
66 Gentoo Foundation

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Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>