Re: [gentoo-nfp] Developer Crypto Hardware (AGM)

[Alec Warner]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote:

> Gentoo-bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/659620
>
> All, this email will serve as a comparison between the two vendors which
> have provided quotes to the Foundation. This does not include Alice's
> proposal as U2FZero is currently out of stock in the United States and
> does not seem to offer any availability in Asia. Alice did suggest that
> we split vendors across geographical markets, but I find this will make
> the situation become very difficult to handle. It would also put the
> burden on individuals to receive and disperse the tokens and increase
> shipping costs, burden the treasurer for reimbursements to be processed,
> and possibly cause delays.
>
> Yubikey:
>
> Quote received for (150) Yubikey FIPS tokens.
>
> Unit Price: $44.16 USD
> Total: $6,624 USD
> Discount: 4% (already available to anyone ordering in bulk)
>
> Shipping costs can be found at [1] and the lowest cost projections
> given. They do not offer any standard costs for shipping and cannot
> discount it.
>
> Open source: Several products are no longer open sourced and tracking
> which is/is not can be difficult [4].
>
> Nitrokey:
>
> Quote received based on (150) Nitrokey Pro tokens.
>
> Unit Price: 27,59 € ($31.58 USD at the time of this email)
> Total: 4,138.50 € ($4737.06 USD at the time of this email)
> Discount: 33% (With sponsorship agreement on gentoo.org)
>
> All prices are already inclusive of VAT.
>
> Shipping times can be found here [2]. Shipping costs can be found here
> [3]. The most expensive shipping is worldwide starting at 7,40 €
> ($8.47 USD at the the time of this email).
>
> Nitrokey has also offered several unique options for Gentoo. They will
> provide a custom portal which allows each developer to request their
> security token. This is done via a Foundation (infra really) provided
> list of valid gentoo.org email addresses. Additionally, they will
> provide monthly billing of all purchased devices and the Foundation is
> not obligated to purchase all (150) tokens. This can be a standing
> agreement until the Foundation decides to remove financial support.
>
> Considering both vendors, we can estimate shipping at the highest cost
> in order to best prepare for potential expenses.
>
> Open source: All products are considered open [4].
>
> -----
>
> Motion: I move that the board vote to accept the offer from Yubico or
> Nitrokey and begin our agreement with the accepted vendor beginning 1
> September 2018. This motion will provide security tokens to all current
> developers listed in Gentoo's LDAP infrastructure as of 31 August 2018.
>

Without a more concrete proposal on the benefit of the keys, I cannot vote
in the affirmative.

 - Will we require keys to commit to git?
 - Can we even measure key usage?
 - Are the keys only for signing git commits, or are there other activities
that are under this proposal?

One narrative might be something like:

1) We surveyed developers and found that 10% use hardware tokens today (so
like ~15 people).
2) We ordered N keys, and offered them under a program as an exploratory
measure, we hand out 100% of the keys.
3) We surveyed developers again and found that now, reported key usage
increased by +X00% (e.g. we ordered 50 keys and now 40 people use them, an
increase of 200%.)
4) We expand the program and order another N keys.

So we might fund this as a program to improve key usage via self-reported
developer surveys; the idea being that 'most' developers use a hardware key
on commit and the foundation thinks this provides a good benefit.

Are there other ways to measure if the keys are used in the manner we are
hoping for?

-A


> Motion: I move that the board vote to maintain the aforementioned
> agreement in order to support future Gentoo developers with security
> tokens. This motion includes the right to terminate future purchases
> based on the Foundation's financials.
>

This is fine provided we pass the first motion.


>
> [1]: https://www.yubico.com/support/shipping-and-buying-information/
> [2]: https://www.nitrokey.com/documentation/frequently-
> asked-questions#how-long-does-the-shipping-take
> [3]: https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitrokey-pro-2-3
> [4]: https://old.lwn.net/Articles/736231/
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Aaron
>