Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] infra agenda item
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 21:53:19
Message-Id: CAGDaZ_qvyBEL0pJ3pwh9h-w8U-zOWb+waF1mXDdTFLo8LNC34A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] infra agenda item by Alec Warner
1 For what it's worth, I personally think that the Foundation being the
2 legal owner of its own assets (axiomatic but true) is reason enough
3 for the Trustees, as legal representatives of the Foundation, to have
4 oversight of whoever is responsible for managing it. This, in my
5 opinion, is a good reason for the infra lead to be directly
6 accountable to the Foundation because infra is maintaining assets that
7 the Foundation legally owns.
8
9 As for mirrors, I would like to make the following comment:
10
11 Mirrors may not be legally owned by the foundation, however, the
12 foundation is (or should be) in charge of the distfiles.gentoo.org
13 domain name and I presume has some sort of administrative control over
14 which mirrors are "official" and which ones are not.
15
16 Presumably the mirrors themselves are pulling (through however many
17 layers) from hardware that IS owned or operated by the foundation, and
18 I'm assuming that the foundation ought to be in a position to set
19 policy that mirrors would be required to comply with if they want the
20 foundation's cooperation in being listed as an official mirror.
21
22 TLDR: if a mirror is a private residence, it's still the phone
23 company's job to say what their phone number is, and mirrors who
24 misbehave (just in theory, like for example serving corrupt files)
25 ought to be subject to the foundation being able to revoke their
26 credentials that make them a mirror.
27
28 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote:
29 >
30 >
31 > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Daniel Robbins <drobbins@××××××.org>
32 > wrote:
33 >>
34 >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote:
35 >>>
36 >>>
37 >>> Specifically regarding your proposal, I'm not sure what outcome you are
38 >>> actually expecting. Explicitly stating that the Foundation owns and controls
39 >>> assets that it literally owns and controls seems a bit tautological (and
40 >>> thus of little value.) It might be useful to state that in that event of a
41 >>> 'hostile takeover' type situation the board will pursue all legal remedies;
42 >>> but this too seems somewhat tautological (but I'm open to more leeway here.)
43 >>
44 >>
45 >> Yes, it is unclear as to how specifically this is protected against, and
46 >> if it is the case that sufficient safeguards are in place, and that everyone
47 >> involved in -infra is aware that the
48 >>
49 >> Foundation essentially is ultimately 'in charge' of the servers, then this
50 >> issues, as far as I can tell, is resolved.
51 >
52 >
53 > I think for now its the general culture from the current infrastructure lead
54 > (robbat2) and the draft policy that tries to clearly describe the situation.
55 > At least the current infra team is aware of a number of past incidents (one
56 > being the one you mentioned, but there are others) and IMHO avoiding
57 > impropriety (and avoiding even the appearance of impropriety) is pretty high
58 > upon our list.
59 >
60 > I'll try to aim for the policy to be out by the next meeting; but the infra
61 > lead is pretty busy with work so it might not be finalized.
62 >
63 > -A
64 >
65 >>
66 >>
67 >> -Daniel
68 >
69 >