Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o>
To: Ryan Gibbons <ryan.gibbons@×××.org>
Cc: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: [gentoo-nfp] Re: Helping Hand ...
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:01:40
Message-Id: 1200531701.3380.33.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com
1 Ryan,
2
3 Really prefer not to talk in private, but would rather communicate in
4 public on -nfp list or other list based on topic.
5
6 On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 15:46 -0600, Ryan Gibbons wrote:
7 > ... Is what I am offering.
8 >
9 > After reading through the NFP mailing list, I have many of the same
10 > beliefs and ideas you do. I also am curious and want to help. I have
11 > been with gentoo since 2002ish and active since 2004. I really want
12 > to make a difference and hold on to what I enjoy and use both
13 > personally and professionally.
14
15 Great, help is always appreciated
16
17 > I've never found a way to "get in" and I think this might be it for
18 > me.
19
20 Start contributing in any way you can. Helps to focus on an area,
21 project, or herd. Work with the devs there, and on your way you will go.
22
23 > I am offering a helping hand, and for some guidance about where I can
24 > go and what I can do. I wouldn't even mind joining the foundation,
25 > not to be cool, but to make a difference, and to work with people like
26 > you who want to make a difference also.
27
28 Great, would help if you would make a public statement to that effect.
29
30 > Chris seems to be very closed minded,
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32 Might seem that way, but he has supported a plan for the last ~8+ months
33 that he voted against. He had other ideas that were outvoted. So he is
34 very much a team player, and open minded when things make sense.
35
36 But some of that is based on what he had done, does, and will do. He has
37 earned respect and at times we need to put faith, even blind faith in
38 those we respect and trust. Might seem like stubbornness but most always
39 there is a valid reason. Just not practical to have to justify the
40 reasoning to any and all, all the time. That just slows things down. But
41 does explain reasoning when possible and necessary.
42
43 > at least what I've heard of him from the last few days. And I've
44 > sent an e-mail to Grant, but I believe it is too swamped right now to
45 > do much, so I am hoping i can team/partner up with you and help the
46 > Foundation
47
48 -nfp mailing list is the place. Individuals privately are to busy
49 working the problem to respond one to one as I am now. But won't be
50 looking to carry this conversation on in private. Thus cc'ing -nfp list.
51
52 Not meant rudely at all, it's just foundation matters we prefer to
53 discuss with users in public not private. We don't even like discussing
54 it in private ourselves, but for some of it for now. It's been
55 necessary.
56
57 --
58 William L. Thomson Jr.
59 Gentoo/amd64/Java

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