Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Dean Stephens <desultory@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Next meeting; a motion to have 1 type of Gentoo member.
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 04:56:17
Message-Id: 64635918-f70a-c405-02a6-932ac007c961@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Next meeting; a motion to have 1 type of Gentoo member. by Alec Warner
1 On 11/06/16 21:32, Alec Warner wrote:
2 > The foundation currently has 1 member type (in the bylaws) but Gentoo
3 > itself still seems to have 2 (Gentoo staff and Ebuild developer)
4 >
5 Which is a problem in exactly what way? What actual practical benefit is
6 being sought by means of this proposal?
7
8 > This motion represents an idea that the community itself would only have 1
9 > contributor type.
10 >
11 > 1) Contributors must take the staff quiz (which we should rename to the
12 > contributor quiz.)
13 >
14 Which is already a a subset of the developer quiz, with the exception of
15 two questions that are unique to the staff quiz. If you want devs to be
16 required to describe what ~ARCH is and whether users need to know what
17 EAPI is, there are less labor intensive ways of achieving that goal.
18 Also, are you seriously proposing that anyone who submits a patch or
19 files a bug or helps other users in any of the various support channels
20 must take a quiz first, or do they not "contribute"?
21
22 > 2) Contributors are encouraged to be foundation members, but membership is
23 > not required. We may amend the contributor onboarding process to offer
24 > foundation membership at the time they join Gentoo as a contributor.
25 >
26 Which is the status quo, just with the proposed renaming.
27
28 > 3) Contributors that want access to the gentoo ebuild repository still need
29 > to follow the normal recruiting process (ebuild quiz, mentor, 30 day
30 > period.)
31 >
32 So, again, effectively the status quo.
33 > 4) Contributors that do not want access to the gentoo ebuild repository
34 > (because they contribute in other ways) do not need to take the ebuild
35 > quiz. Its unclear if a 30 day grace period is required for non-ebuild
36 > groups.
37 >
38 And, yet again, the status quo.
39
40 > 5) Existing developers and staff are rebranded as contributors.
41 >
42 Why "rebrand" anyone?
43
44 > If approved, I expect a few months of working with comrel to adjust
45 > existing policy documents and recruiting guidelines to implement.
46 >
47 Does comrel really need more to do? Even merely dropping the staff quiz
48 questions from the developer quiz and changing all documentation to
49 describe everyone as a "contributor" takes time, and you introduce
50 another round of quiz taking for new ebuild developers when taking too
51 much time to get through the quizzes is already probably the most
52 commonly complained about part of recruiting new ebuild developers.
53 > -A
54 >

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