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From: Michael Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o, gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 10:02:23
Message-Id: ae2785c0-0f25-53e4-6dd5-ec06bf2e0c82@iee.org
1 On 01/07/19 10:52, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 10:31 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
3 >> On 2019.07.01 08:50, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >>> On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 17:55 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
5 >>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
6 >>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:49:58AM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel
7 >>> wrote:
8 >>>>>>> Isn't it about time we quit pinning the mistakes of the past
9 >>> on the
10 >>>>>>> officers of the present?
11 >>>>>> Well, yes. Though, we tried something in the past, it didnt
12 >>> work, we should do
13 >>>>>> it different in the future.
14 >>>>>>
15 >>>>>>> From what I understand, the present and recent
16 >>>>>>> officers have made extraordinary efforts to rectify the
17 >>> shortcomings of
18 >>>>>>> previous trustees
19 >>>>>> And that's great.
20 >>>>>>
21 >>>>>> But are you sure that we should require continuous
22 >>> "extraordinary efforts"
23 >>>>>> from trustees in the future, just to keep things running?
24 >>>>>>
25 >>>>>> FWIW, I endorse antarus / Alec for trustee. :)
26 >>>> No, once fixed, the books will likely be continued to be done by a
27 >>> full time CPA.
28 >>>
29 >>> Wouldn't a dedicated 'full time CPA' be more expensive than an
30 >>> umbrella
31 >>> that has a financial team for multiple projects?
32 >>>
33 >>> --
34 >>> Best regards,
35 >>> Michał Górny
36 >>>
37 >>>
38 >> Ah, the nuances of the English language used between two non
39 >> native spears.
40 >>
41 >> A 'full time CPA' means that the person does that sort of work full
42 >> time. It does not mean that he or she works full time for any one
43 >> client.
44 >>
45 > Yes, I understand that. However, I still believe that a contract
46 > initiated between CPA and a single small-ish entity such a Gentoo
47 > involves more costs than fees taken by umbrella dedicated to multiple
48 > entities. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
49 >
50 > While I can agree that we need to pay more at the moment due to past
51 > issues, I also believe that we owe it to our donors that we try not to
52 > spend most of their money on unnecessary bureaucracy (read: keeping
53 > a dedicated Foundation if there's an alternative that works for Gentoo).
54 >
55 Has anyone got any ball-park figures for the costs of being part of an
56 umbrella organisation?
57 And how would this compare to the forecasted costs ongoing for Gentoo
58 Foundation Inc. or a future non-profit?
59 What would the tax implications of an umbrella org look like, vs Gentoo
60 keeping these in-house?

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