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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Motion: approve preparation costs for tax filings FY2016-FY2019
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:24:01
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr8KmDd8fwvUnt1pPp4o+76qCMCwrQ_O7JnR1yG-X5zV4w@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Motion: approve preparation costs for tax filings FY2016-FY2019 by Aaron Bauman
1 I join in approving.
2
3 -A
4
5 On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 3:45 PM Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote:
6
7 > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 05:18:13AM +0000, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
8 > > Usually I'd just put this on the agenda, but I wanted to ensure wide
9 > > visibility. I think I've captured everything critical here, but there is
10 > > a non-zero chance that I've gotten details wrong as I've very busy this
11 > > week with family medical stuff and my desktop hardware also failed.
12 > >
13 > > TL;DR:
14 > > Motion: The Trustees shall approve funds for the tax filing preparation
15 > > costs, as specified by the first item of the RFP's Section 3 [1][3], for
16 > > FY2016-FY2019 inclusive (4 periods). The initial sum for those costs is
17 > > estimated at $6000USD.
18 > >
19 > > Motion specifics:
20 > > - The quoted cost for tax filing preparation ONLY is $1500USD per fiscal
21 > > year prepared.
22 > > - A further discount MAY be available later based on follow-up actions
23 > > (more years or other services rendered by Corporate Capital Inc. [2])
24 > > - The quoted fee by Corporate Capital includes some auditing of the
25 > > books to ensure that the financial statements are correct enough to
26 > > accurately prepare the tax filings.
27 > > - This quote does NOT include any of the following costs, which are
28 > > understood and accepted as ADDITIONAL costs that will become fully
29 > > known after the preparation service is rendered:
30 > > - IRS filing fees
31 > > - Taxes owing to the IRS [5]
32 > > - IRS late filing penalties [5]
33 > > - IRS late payment penalties [5]
34 > > - Interest on taxes owing [5]
35 > > - Any other payments to State of New Mexico
36 > > - FY2019 closes 2019/06/30, and the books still need to be processed &
37 > > financial statements assembled.
38 > >
39 > > Background #1:
40 > > The Financials Services RFP [1] was issued by the Foundation in
41 > > December, and had multiple false starts and disappointed ends (primarily
42 > > in the form of initial interest from CPAs that then stopped responding
43 > > to the Foundation). However, the Foundation HAS found a CPA to undertake
44 > > at least parts of the project: Corporate Capital Inc. [2].
45 > >
46 > > The CPA thus far has entered a dialogue with the IRS to verify the state
47 > > of our filings to date, and the actions required of the Foundation by
48 > > the IRS. This cost the Foundation $350USD thus far (see bug #687898).
49 > >
50 > > The initial results of that dialogue are:
51 > > 1) that the Foundation is both simultaneously a for-profit corporation
52 > > to the IRS (due to missing filings), and a not-for-profit to the
53 > > Public Regulatory Commission of New Mexico (due to regular filings).
54 > > 2) that the Foundation need to file taxes at least starting for fiscal
55 > > period FY2016 onwards, due to the income reported by third-parties
56 > > for that year.
57 > > 3) The matters of the earlier fiscal periods require other planning &
58 > > approvals by the Foundation (covered in antarus' pitch in running for
59 > > the Foundation again this election). The CPA has outline a range of
60 > > options in that regard, but is blocked by completion of the initial
61 > > FY2016 onwards filings. This would cover the third section of RFP
62 > > Section 3.
63 > >
64 > > The CPA has also done a cursory review of the Financial Statements [4]
65 > > as prepared by Robin H. Johnson (robbat2), and provisionally approved
66 > > them as sufficient for preparation of tax filings. Some work is needed
67 > > in missing sections, such as baseline estimation of in-kind donations.
68 > >
69 > > [1]
70 > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/6f92491f28f15897e8e4fc392ef1b6ec
71 > > [2] https://www.corporatecapitalinc.com/
72 > > [3] RFP, Section 3: "First and foremost the Foundation wants to get in
73 > good
74 > > standing with the IRS including paying any back–taxes and penalties
75 > > necessary. This will include assistance filing form 990 (or related
76 > > forms.)"
77 > > [4] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Financial_Reports
78 > > [5] Based on the discussion with the CPAs, the Net Income estimates from
79 > > the Financial Statements, and some free IRS tax-owning calculators, I
80 > > have a more detailed estimate of the sums to pay to the IRS, rounded
81 > > here to the nearest $100USD:
82 > > FY2016 - $2400USD taxes, $600 in penalties & interest = $3k USD
83 > > FY2017 - $1500USD taxes, $500 in penalties & interest = $2k USD
84 > > FY2018 - $4000USD taxes, $300 in penalties & interest = $4.3k USD
85 > > FY2019 - books not available yet. Filing deadline is 2019/09/15.
86 > >
87 > > Background #2:
88 > > I had some direct inquiries as to the history of contacting the IRS &
89 > > results of the earlier CPA searches. I'm deliberately omitting the
90 > > personal names of the third parties here, because of privacy concerns.
91 > > Much of this is a summary of prior IRC logs/motions.
92 > >
93 > > 2016/03:
94 > > First public CPA RFP-like request.
95 > >
96 > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/message/2ef544c4d3541ed52d980ee71101c29b
97 > > There are multiple initial email responses, however none of the email
98 > > exchanges are sustained by the other parties.
99 > >
100 > > 2017/03:
101 > > dabbott & robbat2 try to submit change of address & filing extension
102 > > request to IRS, no responses ever received.
103 > >
104 > > 2016/05-2017/08:
105 > > Foundation engages a volunteer CPA local & known to dabbott. IRS
106 > > declines responses, and the volunteer CPA becomes unavailable later in
107 > > the year for health reasons.
108 > >
109 > > 2016/08-2018/11:
110 > > dabbott tries writing a letter to the IRS, and is told to file various
111 > Form
112 > > 4506 variants.
113 > >
114 > > 2016/10-2016/11:
115 > > dabbott files forms 4506-T: gets rejection notices.
116 > >
117 > > 2017/07-2017/09:
118 > > prometheanfire files form 4506-A, gets a non-answer from the IRS.
119 > >
120 > > 2017/06-2017/08:
121 > > robbat2 engages a local CPA at cost (see bugs with title "Accounting
122 > > Services Invoice.*" to pay fees), who aids immensely in the financial
123 > > statement preparation, and also has a draft financial statement & Form
124 > > 990 for FY2005, as well as a brief dialogue with the IRS. The CPA also
125 > > becomes professionally unavailable after 2017/10 for personal & business
126 > > reasons. $1000USD total is spent on the CPA's services.
127 > >
128 > > 2017/06-2018/08:
129 > > Large book-keeping project by robbat2, with significant data entry work
130 > > by zlg, and some complex accounting questions answered by k_f as well as
131 > > the previous CPA only a friendly basis only.
132 > >
133 > > --
134 > > Robin Hugh Johnson
135 > > Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer
136 > > E-Mail : robbat2@g.o
137 > > GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85
138 > > GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136
139 >
140 > I approve this motion.
141 >
142 > --
143 > Cheers,
144 > Aaron
145 >