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From: John Alberts <john.m.alberts@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Foundation update
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:06:20
Message-Id: a23b6f900801181306v75dbfb2dv7fd73d6d657d25a0@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Foundation update by Grant Goodyear
1 Thank you for taking the time to elaborate so well on the status of everything.
2
3
4 > That said, there has been a
5 > lot of support for what drobbins has proposed
6 > (http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html), which would make
7 > the Foundation responsible for the health and direction of Gentoo as a
8 > whole. That's a discussion that's certainly worth having, and
9 > gentoo-nfp@g.o is standing by.... Let's try not to take forever
10 > having this discussion, so consider Monday, 23:59 UTC, to be a deadline
11 > for your electronic voice to be heard.
12
13 The only way the word will truly get out about this, is to put a
14 notice on the front page with a link to this message. Maybe someone
15 who has access to the front page could post a little something on
16 there about this?
17
18 John Alberts
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22 On Jan 18, 2008 2:15 PM, Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@g.o> wrote:
23 > Here's an update. It's the same as on my blog.
24 >
25 >
26 > Current state of affairs
27 > ------------------------
28 >
29 > With help from Renat Lumpau (rl03), I spent some time this week talking
30 > to the Foundation's lawyers, collecting documents, and sifting through
31 > old e-mails. As I posted on gentoo-nfp a couple of days ago, the state
32 > of New Mexico did, indeed, revoke the charter for the Gentoo Foundation,
33 > Inc. in October of 2007. It's still not entirely clear why, since I
34 > mailed a check along with the (then) current and past-due annual reports
35 > to the state of NM way back in July. Since the check never cleared, it
36 > seems a good guess that the paperwork went astray, but we won't know
37 > until Renat's request (and $5) are processed by NM and they get back to
38 > him.
39 >
40 > In any event, having the Foundation's charter revoked is exceptionally
41 > embarrassing, but not catastrophic. The state of NM has a
42 > straightforward procedure for reinstating a revoked charter, as long as
43 > the request to do so is filed within two years of the charter's
44 > revocation. This morning I sent by USPS Express Mail (tracking number
45 > EO 943 358 815 US for those who want to play follow-the-paperwork from
46 > home) an envelope to the New Mexico Public Regulation Commission,
47 > Corporations Bureau containing an application for reinstatement, copies
48 > of the missing annual reports, and a check for $60.
49 >
50 > Does the Foundation currently exist?
51 > ------------------------------------
52 >
53 > Yes.
54 >
55 > Many, many people have assumed, quite understandably, that with the
56 > Foundation's charter having been revoked, that the Foundation has thus
57 > ceased to exist. That's not really true. You can see this by looking
58 > at the NM statutes, but it's simplest to see by looking at what happens
59 > when NM receives the application for reinstatement. The New Mexico
60 > public regulation commission will determine if all of our paperwork is
61 > in order. If it isn't, they'll let us know what we need to do to
62 > complete it. Once it is, the commission will cancel the certificate of
63 > revocation and file a certificate of reinstatement that takes effect "as
64 > of the effective date of the administrative revocation and the
65 > corporation resumes carrying on its business as if the administrative
66 > revocation had never occurred".
67 >
68 > http://tinyurl.com/2v6qtl
69 >
70 > Who is in charge here, anyway?
71 > ------------------------------
72 >
73 > Well, for the moment, I am. Of course, since I'm one of the people who
74 > let the Foundation's charter get revoked, that's probably not a good
75 > thing, but that's what we have right at the moment. Who am I? I'm one
76 > of the two Trustees who hasn't resigned. (The other is pauldv.) I'm
77 > also one of the original Trustees from when the Foundation was
78 > incorporated. During that initial period I was made the Secretary of
79 > the Foundation so that I could establish banking (which requires that
80 > the Secretary sign the forms), and in 2005 I was chosen by the
81 > then-newly-elected Trustees to be the President of the Foundation. The
82 > important part from the above is that I had the legal authority to sign
83 > the application for reinstatement that I mailed earlier today.
84 >
85 > Could somebody else be in charge?
86 > ---------------------------------
87 >
88 > Yes, but it would take some time.
89 >
90 > The Foundation has members. Those members could set up an election,
91 > vote out the current bums, and choose new, more dedicated folks to run
92 > things. Who are these members? It's anybody who voted in a previous
93 > Trustee election, and all current Gentoo devs who have been a developer
94 > for one year at the closing of the election poll and actually vote in
95 > the election. The Gentoo Foundation has a _lot_ of members.
96 >
97 > An alternative is for the existing Trustees to appoint new trustees to
98 > fill the gaps left by those Trustees who have left. That would take
99 > less time, but I'd feel much better doing that if new elections were
100 > scheduled to occur within a reasonable amount of time.
101 >
102 > What happened to the SFLC?
103 > --------------------------
104 >
105 > Weren't we going to consider joinging the Software Freedom Law Center's
106 > Software Freedom Conservancy (http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/)?
107 > Yes, and the SFC was, and still is, interested (as of just a few days
108 > ago, anyway), although they have some concerns about managing the legal
109 > aspects of an entire distribution. (Gentoo would be larger, by far,
110 > than any of their current member projects.) I still think that's the
111 > right way to go, although it's ultimately going to depend on what the
112 > Foundation's members want. The bottleneck right now is the assembly of
113 > documents that the SFC needs to go forward:
114 >
115 > * Certificate of Incorporation (or analogous document for your org)
116 >
117 > * Existing By-Laws for the Organization
118 >
119 > * List of Directors (and historical list of previous directors, if
120 > available)
121 >
122 > * List of Officers (and historical list of previous officers, if
123 > available)
124 >
125 > * Minutes from all Board meetings for the last three years
126 >
127 > * All Board Resolutions passed by the Directors
128 >
129 > * Membership meeting minutes (if your organization is a membership
130 > organization)
131 >
132 > * All Membership Resolutions (if your organization is a membership
133 > organization)
134 >
135 > * All annual reports (published, or filed with any state or federal
136 > agency)
137 >
138 > * All audited annual finanicals (if any were audited and/or filed)
139 >
140 > * All financial reports of any kind for the last three years
141 >
142 > * Copy of all state and/or federal filings (particularly including but
143 > not limited to tax-related filings) for the last three years. In
144 > particular, be sure to include:
145 >
146 > + the IRS determination letter for the status of your filing
147 >
148 > + Your IRC Form 1023 filing
149 >
150 > * List of any ongoing threats of litigation, or other disputes, and
151 > documentation of any resolved past litigation
152 >
153 > * A list of all assets currently held by the organization (including
154 > backup documentation, such as copy of bank statements, etc.)
155 >
156 > + Include a copy of *all* bank statements for the last year
157 >
158 > * Any contracts that the organization has executed in the last three
159 > years (plus any older than that if they remain active)
160 >
161 > * A list of any outstanding loans, leans, or other debts held by the
162 > Organization
163 >
164 > Much of this stuff needs to be assembled by me (because I have most of
165 > the docs), and I got rather busy the last six months and didn't do any
166 > of it. I'm going to try to pull together as much as possible this
167 > weekend, but I could use help on a couple of items. Our sponsored ads
168 > on www.gentoo.org presumably constitute contracts of some sort, so if we
169 > have anything in writing I could use a copy. Our major tangible assets
170 > are the various gentoo boxes that we have, so a list of those would be
171 > helpful. I vaguely remember that once upon a time we fired a dev who
172 > then threatened to sue us (but never did, fortunately). Nonetheless,
173 > we'd best include that info as well. Help from devrel on that one,
174 > please? I'd like to have all of this stuff sent to the SFC on Monday,
175 > if at all possible.
176 >
177 > Looking forward
178 > ---------------
179 >
180 > So, what's next?
181 >
182 > We need new Trustees. I don't think anybody will disagree there.
183 >
184 > We need to decide (again) what the role of the Foundation should be.
185 > Currently, the Foundation exists to handle Gentoo's financial matters,
186 > protect and defend Gentoo's trademarks and other intellectual property,
187 > and provide ownership of various "hard" assets, such as the various
188 > Gentoo server boxes. The Foundation has almost no influence right now
189 > over actual Gentoo (the OS) development. The only caveat there is that
190 > Gentoo needs to satisfy the requirements of a non-profit organization,
191 > and it's the Foundation's job to let the Council know if something is
192 > happening that might threaten the Foundation's non-profit status. I
193 > believe that this role is what the majority of the Foundation's members
194 > actually want, and it's one that I believe would be even better served
195 > by having the SFC handle it instead of us. That said, there has been a
196 > lot of support for what drobbins has proposed
197 > (http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html), which would make
198 > the Foundation responsible for the health and direction of Gentoo as a
199 > whole. That's a discussion that's certainly worth having, and
200 > gentoo-nfp@g.o is standing by.... Let's try not to take forever
201 > having this discussion, so consider Monday, 23:59 UTC, to be a deadline
202 > for your electronic voice to be heard.
203 >
204 > What about drobbins' proposal?
205 > ------------------------------
206 >
207 > I'd like to push off until Monday any actual decision, so that the above
208 > discussion can happen first. I don't think drobbins will mind the
209 > delay, although he's not around right now for me to check first.
210 > --
211 > Grant Goodyear
212 > Gentoo Developer
213 > g2boojum@g.o
214 > http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum
215 > GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76
216 >
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