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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: matthew.summers@××××××××××××.com
Cc: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: How to improve the trustees
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:12:21
Message-Id: 1202073137l.3242l.2l@spike
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: How to improve the trustees by Matthew Summers
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On 2008.02.03 19:41, Matthew Summers wrote:
> Roy Bamford wrote: > > On 2008.02.03 16:49, Matthew Summers wrote: > >> Roy Bamford wrote: > >>> > >>> Many new users come to gentoo as their first Linux. Many of > >>> them are poorly informed about both Linux and Gentoo - I don't > >>> know how to reach this group *before* they start asking for > >>> help in #gentoo and on the forums. Thats the sort problem we > >>> have to solve. > >>> > >>> > >> Roy, > > > >> Towards a solution to this particular issue above, I suggest > >> Gentoo provides a documentation project (possibly) entitled > >> "Learning Linux with Gentoo". Within this we could easily > >> address many issues faced by new Linux/Gentoo users. It would > >> seem, as well, to be a good service to the Gentoo and larger > >> Linux communities, as many users of other distros get information > >> from our documentation pages as well as our forums. This could > >> potentially increase Gentoo's exposure as well as our user base > >> by "de-mystifying" Gentoo and basically easing new users into our > >> way of operating, while also providing a great resource for all > >> Linux/Gentoo users. I do want to state that this is not in any > >> way intended to disparage the efforts of the Gentoo Documentation > >> Project in any way. I think our docs are fantastic in many ways. > >> I am simply suggesting some various extensions to that > >> documentation base as well as some updates. > > > >> This would also fit into my earlier proposition regarding the use > >> of university technical writing interns for said documentation > >> projects as posted to this list and syndicated as a guest post on > >> Joshua Jackson's (tsunam) blog. > > > >> As always, I offer my assistance/support in the aforementioned > >> endeavor. > > > >> Best Regards, > > > >> Matthew W. Summers (quantumsummers) > > > > > > > > Matthew, > > > > I think this is a good idea. However, one of the issues is that a > > body of new users is not even aware of the existance of the current > > documentation. > > > > e.g. How to head off questions like "I've just started the minimal > > CD to install Gentoo but all I get is a black screen with some text > > at the bottom. Where do I click to install Gentoo?" > > > > I'm not 100% sure it wasn't a troll but as this represents a class > > of problems seen on the forums, I'm sure that some are genuine. > > > > > > Perhaps one easy way to present the necessary information to the > users > that are "not even aware of the existance of the current > documentation" would be to extend the current message that is > displayed upon booting to the minimal livecd by loading an ncurses > based window that presents the current message and also presents the > user 3 radio buttons. The buttons represent three options. > > Option 1- I'm New to Linux > (Open lynx (or similar) to the hypothetical page "Learning Linux > with Gentoo: I Just Booted the Minimal LiveCD, Now What?") > 1st Lesson: Use of CTRL + F1-F6 to switch terminals, etc. > Option 2 - I'm New to Gentoo > (Open lynx (or similar) to the "Gentoo Handbook") > Option 3 - Continue to CLI > (Set at timeout for this ncurses screen of, say, 15 seconds > before > proceeding as usual, also allow the user to pass a switch to grub at > boot to bypass the ncurses) > > This is a rather brief description, and could easily be refined. It > is meant only to convey the general idea, that is, we can modify the > usual minimal livecd experience to reflect both the desires of many > veteran users to have a rapid & often remote boot, while serving the > new, perhaps less knowledgeable, users as well. > > Let me know what you think. > > Best Regards, > > Matthew W. Summers > >
I like the sound of that. The CDs have a readme file which the user has to find that contains links to the handbook. A more "in your face" approach may be good. The 2008.0 feature request deadline has just passed. Maybe for 2008.1 - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHpi4xTE4/y7nJvasRAqdsAKDG+OYX3zGf3dTYgV4wo/iHjl1uZQCcD36y v4hF8wG3XFXrGo9l8Wvx5F8= =fbLo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-nfp@l.g.o mailing list


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Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: How to improve the trustees Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>