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From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o, gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:10:56
Message-Id: 1952451.xLDF1lqCQC@porto
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation by Matthew Thode
1 Am Donnerstag, 5. Januar 2017, 15:36:45 CET schrieb Matthew Thode:
2 > Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation
3 >
4
5 [...]
6
7 > This split is suboptimal for Gentoo (all of it).
8
9 I agree with this statement, though probably for slightly different reasons.
10
11 In my opinion the main problem with the current situation is that it invites
12 to "game the system". People unhappy with a council decision run to the
13 foundation trustees. When foundation and council cooperate well, that's no
14 problem, but as soon as personalities clash and responsibilities are ill
15 defined, anyone can trigger a "Gentoo constitutional crisis" at will.
16
17 > In order to solve this Gentoo needs to have a combined electorate,
18 > meaning those that would vote for Council would also vote for Trustees
19 > and visa-versa. This would ensure that everyone’s needs are represented.
20 > We should have a single combined governing body, let’s call it ‘The
21 > Board’. This is so that conflicts between Council and Trustees (as they
22 > exist now) would have a straightforward resolution. This new ‘Board’
23 > would be able to use the existing project metastructure to delegate
24 > roles to various groups (Comrel, Infra, etc would still exist, but under
25 > this new Board).
26 > (personal opinion) I imagine the merging of voting pools would coincide
27 > with the merging of governing bodies.
28
29 That sounds like a good plan to me, in principle, however we need to figure
30 out some details first. I think we really need to merge the voting pools, so
31 there is one well-defined electorate for the board. Also, I think that voting
32 for the board should be restricted to Gentoo developers (with or without main
33 tree access), since that provides a good "proof of productive involvment".
34
35 Let's first try to list resulting topics, and then discuss a possible
36 solution.
37
38 Problems:
39
40 * Developers have to (?) become members of a US-based foundation in order to
41 be able to vote for the board.
42 One side is how many (US law) legal obligations follow from membership; I'd
43 guess not many, but it should be clarified. This is probably the smaller
44 issue.
45 The other side is that we can't predict worldwide legal impact, and that it
46 may well be disadvantageous for someone in another country to officially be
47 member of a US legal body.
48
49 * Board members have a different legal status.
50 It may become impossible for some of our developers to be elected to the
51 Gentoo "board", since the legal position may lead to conflicts of interest
52 with real-life work.
53 [I'd have to research that, but it's not impossible that even as a civil
54 servant I'd have to get that officially approved by the "Free State of
55 Bavaria".]
56
57 * We need to figure out what to do with non-dev foundation members.
58
59 * Anything else?
60
61
62 So how can we solve this?
63
64 [Disclaimer: I haven't done any detailed research yet, so some of the ideas
65 presented below may well be premature.]
66
67 * Transfer administration of Gentoo assets and finanicals to an organization
68 as, e.g., SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/ ). See e.g. http://www.spi-inc.org/
69 projects/ for references.
70
71 * Dissolve the Gentoo Foundation.
72
73
74 This means:
75
76 * Anyone now running for trustees can run for council and be involved in all
77 aspects of Gentoo oversight.
78
79 * There is only one controlling body (I guess whether we name it "board" or
80 "council" doesn't matter).
81
82 * The part of Gentoo where mistakes are fatal (IRS filings, corporate status,
83 trademarks, financial statements) is handled by professionals (or not relevant
84 anymore).
85 [Robin is doing a great job of handling our finances at the moment, and it's
86 good that the trustees are very active now. As in all volunteer organizations,
87 we can't take that continuously for granted though.]
88
89 * The Gentoo "council" or "board" does not involve any legal status which can
90 make it difficult for anyone to run.
91
92 * The electorate lists for the "council" or "board" are handled by ourselves,
93 and do not require membership of any legal body.
94
95 The end result in terms of self-administration is not that much different from
96 Matthew's proposal. The legal construct, however, is very much different.
97
98
99 Opinions? Additions? Flames?
100
101 Cheers, Andreas
102
103
104 --
105 Andreas K. Hüttel
106 dilfridge@g.o
107 Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice)

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