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From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o, "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Developer Crypto Hardware (AGM)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 14:30:21
Message-Id: 4132690e-64c8-6b02-1e42-945e7c8ff4a9@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Developer Crypto Hardware (AGM) by "Michał Górny"
1 On 08/22/2018 04:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 15:48 +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
3 >> On 08/22/2018 03:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >>> This is one attack vector that -- AFAIU -- hardware tokens protect
5 >>> against.
6 >>
7 >> Right, although it only shifts the attack, so user would just wait until
8 >> the token is available to perform whatever wanted anyways. In terms of
9 >> after the attack, the difference is we don't really use OpenPGP as a
10 >> long term identify such as it is in general. For a user, losing WoT etc
11 >> can have an impact, for Gentoo we just update LDAP and access is
12 >> effectively revoked without further issues, we don't need the key
13 >> material to survive this attack to be used after the fact again, which
14 >> is really what the hardware token helps for.
15 >>
16 >
17 > We're talking about 'the burglar can come into the house when the door
18 > is unlocked' vs 'the burglar has the key and can come and go as he
19 > pleases'. You make it sound like there's no difference.
20 >
21
22 If there is a trojan installed on the computer there isn't really much
23 difference between those scenarios; it really comes down to better
24 review platform a priori and more auditing of commits post hoc.
25
26 --
27 Kristian Fiskerstrand
28 OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
29 fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3

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