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Crap, wrong From address. |
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From: Alec Warner <antarus@×××××××××××.com> |
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Date: Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:40 PM |
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Section 4.1 Member Classes |
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To: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o> |
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Cc: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o> |
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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:27 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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<wltjr@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 20:17 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: |
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>> No way? How negative :P. I think this is a noble goal (even if only |
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>> to pay a fraction). |
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> See list archive between say September and October. Very low volume |
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> then. My ideas not even matured were raped to pieces. |
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I will say I was a bit rash in that conversation. Note that claiming |
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you want to pay folks when |
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you presently have no money sounds silly (and it still kind of does). |
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Claiming you want to help the foundation make money because sometime |
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in the nebulous future you want |
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to be a more independent project is a bit more...well presented arguement? |
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I don't recall you mentioning for instance, FreeBSD's success in asset |
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management and distribution; certainly it |
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helps make your point a bit clearer no? |
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>> I would, however, choose not to throw away certain principles of how I |
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>> think Gentoo should be ran to |
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>> achieve this end and I sometimes feel that William's ideas would do so |
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>> (e.g. selling advertising space). |
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> We are selling ad space now. Just indirectly and with no consistent |
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> policies. Plus some like GNi get questionable benefit. |
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You may interpret it as selling; I do not. It is a 'you scratched our |
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back and we will scratch yours' kind of deal. |
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> But Gentoo having ads is selling out just as much as Google is by making |
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> billions of ads in the first place :) Which Gentoo turns around and uses |
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> for Summer of Code and etc. |
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> I love the double standard, and all the ideals do what exactly for |
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> Gentoo? |
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They give me warm fuzzies? |
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Google loses millions of dollars a year by leaving the "I'm feeling |
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lucky!" search button on their front page by virtue of users never |
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seeing advertisements for queries served by that button. Why doesn't |
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Google remove it and recoup all that money? What does the button do |
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for Google? |
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I imagine a bunch of engineers would get pissed if it was removed |
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because it is a fun item and shows that Google is a fun company. |
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I imagine if you sold space on the web page a bunch of 'community |
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members' would get pissed because Gentoo doesn't do stuff like sell |
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advertising to anyone because it is a project run by volunteers who |
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don't want corporate overlords. |
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> -- |
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> William L. Thomson Jr. |
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> amd64/Java/Trustees |
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> Gentoo Foundation |
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