Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:04:43
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr9JCKJ8EvF--c7YN9A79s1E5br+hBmc2DuE1JKX1euHeg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-nfp] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing by Rich Freeman
1 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
2 > Announcing once to -dev-announce due to the general importance of this
3 > topic to the community, but ALL replies should go to -nfp, or to
4 > trustees@ if you must, or to /dev/null if you shouldn't.
5 >
6 > Before I start, yes, the trustees realize that there are legal issues
7 > around copyright assignment in general, and that various workaround
8 > exist and may or may not work, such as various contributor licensing
9 > agreements that are used by various organizations, especially in
10 > Europe. The purpose of this thread isn't really to debate this topic,
11 > as it might be moot in any case.
12 >
13 > The question we would like to get feedback from the Gentoo community
14 > on is this: is copyright assignment (or something like it) something
15 > Gentoo should even be pursuing, and if so, to what degree? Should we
16 > turn away contributions where assignments are not made? Should we aim
17 > for a voluntary but encouraged approach as used by KDE e.V.? Should
18 > we pursue this for some Gentoo projects but not others (such as for
19 > portage (the package manager), and perhaps eclass code, but not
20 > ebuilds)?
21
22 We have certainly 'gotten by' without one. So my question to you is
23 more along the lines of why we would pursue such action.
24
25 * Not everyone would sign an agreement.
26 * The agreement can't cover all past work, because not all (former)
27 contributors will sign, or are even alive.
28 * Are there any legal risks, if any, for not owning the copyright directly?
29
30 >
31 > Set aside the mechanics of how this would be accomplished for now. I
32 > don't think that this is likely to be the source of any great
33 > controversy, though if we pursue this we will no doubt solicit
34 > comments on any proposals. Likewise, set aside any issues pertaining
35 > to history of what the status quo actually is. The larger issue is
36 > where Gentoo wants to be with regard to "ownership" (or whatever the
37 > appropriate term is) of its code. Where we are going is more
38 > important than how we get there.
39 >
40 > The main arguments for owning copyright of something would be:
41 > 1. Legal simplicity
42 > 2. Ability to re-license (obviously in accordance with the social
43 > contract, and this could even be enforced with a model like the FSFe's
44 > FLA)
45
46 We can only re-license code that we have an agreement for. Is having
47 YY% of the code under an agreement worthwhile?
48
49 > 3. Standing to pursue copyleft license violations
50
51 Same point as 2.
52
53 >
54 > The main arguments for not owning copyright of something would be:
55 > 1. Some potential contributors might refuse to contribute
56 > 2. Ability to merge license-compatible code without needing the
57 > cooperation of its author
58 >
59 > There are numerous details to be worked out either way, and we don't
60 > need to settle those in advance.
61 >
62 > Feedback from any member of the Gentoo community (loosely defined) is
63 > welcome. If anybody has STRONG feelings on this matter, please be
64 > sure to voice them either in public or in private, as I can't
65 > guarantee that there will be another opportunity to do so.
66 >
67 > For those wondering where this is going: Right now the Foundation is
68 > soliciting info from other organizations and will be soliciting legal
69 > advice regarding how we might implement whatever course of action we
70 > choose to take. If community consensus seems to be obvious in the
71 > replies to this email we may very well form concrete proposals and put
72 > them out for comment before enacting new policy. If consensus is not
73 > clear we may seek further input in the form of binding or non-binding
74 > votes from the Foundation membership. Obviously our goal isn't to
75 > stir up a hornet's nest, so assume that the Trustees will use
76 > reasonable discretion.
77 >
78 > For the Trustees (who are welcome to chime in with any
79 > questions/nuances I missed),
80 >
81 > Richard Freeman
82 >