Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@g.o>
To:
Cc: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>, Gentoo project list <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-nfp] 2021 Trustees election
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 19:34:10
Message-Id: robbat2-20210707T181637-899723432Z@orbis-terrarum.net
1 On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:05:47AM -0700, Matt Turner wrote:
2 > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:26 AM Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote:
3 > > > Are you instead interested in the Foundation moving from a 501(c)6 to
4 > > > a 501(c)3 so that donations are tax deductible? If so, have you done
5 > > > anything to work towards that?
6 > > >
7 > >
8 > > We are not a 501(c)6 and never have been. We also have never been a
9 > > 501(c)3 as the original board members never completed the paperwork.
10 >
11 > This is a pretty great example of the lack of communication I'm
12 > talking about.
13 Not just lack of communication. Horrible US law as well and people
14 making assumptions about what a "valid" state is.
15
16 > If we're not a 501(c)6 and never have been, then what are we and why
17 > don't you just state that so we're all on the same page?
18 Your statement misses some things:
19 A) If we aren't a 501(c)(6), what are we?
20 B) What set of rules are we required to operated under?
21 C) What set of rules are we actually operating under?
22
23 Part A was one of the significant questions we asked the CPA based on
24 the accounting services RFP. And I'm not going to spoil this section
25 with a TL;DR answer, because I want people to READ the section.
26
27 The earliest trustees were intending to file paperwork to become a
28 *501(c)(6)*, but never completed the paperwork. To the best of my
29 research, there was no paperwork attempted by the earliest trustees
30 towards a 501(c)(3).
31
32 What follows is my IANAL & IANA(CPA) summary of the IRS "Life Cycle of a
33 Business League (Trade Association)"
34 https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/other-non-profits/life-cycle-of-a-business-league-trade-association
35
36 A *new* corporation can come into existence (based on filing articles of
37 incorporation), and state it's INTENT to become a recognized 501(c)(6)
38 or 501(c)(3).
39
40 At that point, in some documentation, it's referred to as an
41 not-yet-recognized 501(c)(3/6). It does NOT have IRS Determination
42 Letter yet. Some donors, grantors and others might not yet provide
43 discounts for tax-exempt organizations. The organization cannot issue
44
45 As a not-yet-recognized 501(c)(3/6):
46 - "Starting Out": the entity must acts under the set of rules that would applicable to a 501(c)(3/6)
47 - "Applying to the IRS": files to become a 501(c)(3/6) & waits for the IRS review
48
49 If it doesn't file to become a 501(c)(6), then it's a normal corporation
50 business in the eyes of the IRS for any filings that are due at that
51 point.
52
53 At the same time, it can be a non-profit corporation recognized by a US
54 state, which is what we are: recognized by New Mexico as a domestic
55 non-profit corporation.
56
57 > According to [1] we seem to be a 501(c)1.
58 > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Articles_of_Incorporation
59 Just because the text "501(c)(1)" occurs in your search doesn't mean you
60 read what that section says.
61 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Articles_of_Incorporation#Article_V_-_Restrictions
62 TL;DR: It says unless we CANNOT do activities that a 501(c)(1) can.
63 | Notwithstanding any other provision of these articles, the Corporation
64 | shall not carry on any activities not permitted to be carried on by a
65 | Corporation exempt from Federal income tax under section 501(c)(1) of
66 | the internal Revenue Code of 1986 or the corresponding provision of any
67 | future United States Internal Revenue Law (hereinafter, the "Code").
68
69
70 > According to Funtoo [2] we seem to be a 501(c)6.
71 > [2] https://www.funtoo.org/Organization:Gentoo_Foundation
72
73 > According to Wikipedia [3] we seem to be a 501(c)6.
74 > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux#History
75
76 > This [4] says the Gentoo has never been a 501(c)6 and since
77 > that's in the foundation namespace, I assume it must be definitive.
78 >
79 > So there's a *lot* of confusing information out there, and this could
80 > all be cleared up with some clear statement on the Wiki. As you said,
81 > it should all be on the Wiki. :)
82 >
83 > [4] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/foundation/financials-rfp.git/plain/build/gentoo-foundation-rfp.pdf
84
85 So we reach a conclusion:
86 - we are a corporation
87 - In New Mexico: bound by the rules of a non-profit corporation
88 - AND for the IRS: filing & paying taxes as a private corporation
89 - AND *voluntarily* holding ourselves to the STRICTER rules that a
90 501(c)(6) would follow, specifically because that permits future
91 transition to a 501(c)(6) status. (see
92 https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/other-non-profits/life-cycle-of-a-business-league-trade-association-jeopardizing-exemption)
93
94 In some ways, this means right now we're in one of the worst possible
95 spots in terms of our status: we play by stricter rules than we have to,
96 and don't get any of the benefits of being a federally recognized
97 non-profit corporation.
98
99 You may find the IRS Exempt Organizations-Technical Instruction Program
100 for IRC 501(c)(6) Organizations to be of interest.
101 https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopick03.pdf
102
103 If the Foundation & Council cannot find an Umbrella who is mutually
104 agreeable to have us as a project, we wind up in some of the other
105 options of the future state of the Foundation.
106
107 The *cheapest* option is to go full-private corporation, but that risks
108 the takeover concerns and I believe would be in bad faith with the
109 membership and the larger Gentoo culture.
110
111 The most expensive is transferring or forming a new 501(c)(3), with a
112 501(c)(6) being a middle ground.
113
114 --
115 Robin Hugh Johnson
116 Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer
117 E-Mail : robbat2@g.o
118 GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85
119 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136

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