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From: joshua jackson <tsunam@g.o>
To: Nikola Zivkovic <theshadowgate@×××××.com>
Cc: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Some suggestions:
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:44:55
Message-Id: 478ECF35.3000108@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Some suggestions: by Nikola Zivkovic
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4 Nikola Zivkovic wrote:
5 | On Wednesday 16 January 2008 07:32:32 pm Caleb Cushing wrote:
6 |> On Thursday 17 January 2008 08:42:16 pm Nikola Zivkovic wrote:
7 |>> 2. Use paludis as default PM.
8 |> no. reason... although I haven't tested it recently
9 |>
10 |> 1.) the last 2 times I tried it didn't work out of the box... it
11 asked for
12 |> a config file... all programs should work (maybe not precisely the
13 way you
14 |> want) out of the box. even apache and postfix can be started out of the
15 |> box.
16 |>
17 |> 2.) it's syntax is different. I don't want a new user interface... a new
18 |> backend would be fine. I think most users and admins would agree don't
19 |> change the interface unless it bring significant benefit.
20 |>
21 |> 3.) it's not completely backwards compatible and could potentially break
22 |> things. developers may not care about this but system administrators do.
23 |>
24 |> 4.) it's not done. get it to 1.0 and stable before asking it to replace
25 |> something.
26 |
27 | Naturally I meant to include it when it was finished.
28 | I am using 0.26... and it works very well. It is MUCH faster than
29 emerge, the
30 | config scheme is cleaner and better organized IMHO, and the ooutput it
31 | provides in the console seems much cleaner to me.
32 | It doesn't work out of the box because you have to configure it. The
33 | configuration is relatively easy... especially if you use
34 | portage2paludis.bash.
35 | It hasn't broken anything for me and I've remerged world, gcc, system,
36 | security, etc. However when I used portage to remerge world for 3 days my
37 | machine kept crashing afterwards.
38 | I however hope that *if* paludis manages to win more users over from
39 portage
40 | that it will be included as the default PM.
41 | Cheers.
42 Here's a consideration. It requires GCC4 which is not on all
43 archs/versions such as embedded. Thats one such reason why it shouldn't
44 become the default. As it has to work for everything we support....
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