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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-pms@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] kdebuild-1 conditionales
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:09:02
Message-Id: 20091216230853.30497140@snowmobile
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-pms] kdebuild-1 conditionales by Christian Faulhammer
1 On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:50:50 +0100
2 Christian Faulhammer <fauli@g.o> wrote:
3 > > * Stop committing things that aren't typo fixes without posting them
4 > > to this list for review.
5 >
6 > They are still administrative things reflecting a council decision
7 > and setting the repo to official document generation by default.
9 So? If it's not a typo or trivial formatting fix, you send it out for
10 review. Administrative or not, you got it wrong, and you went ahead and
11 committed it even after I'd told you to wait until things had settled
12 down.
14 Admit that you screwed up, and make sure it doesn't happen again. Stop
15 trying to defend the indefensible.
17 > Disable kdebuild-1 by default: We had the discussion several times and
18 > your only argument now is that there might be consumers of an
19 > never-approved EAPI out there.
21 And, as per procedure, there was not consensus on it so you should not
22 have committed it.
24 > 3 to 4 move: Purely administrative and has been worked on by two
25 > people (ulm and myself).
27 Not purely administrative at all. For starters, you introduced a whole
28 load of todo notes into the main document, which we've deliberately not
29 been doing. Second, I'd already told you not to commit it until the
30 whole "what exactly is in EAPI 3" thing had been sorted out, which
31 still hasn't happened -- Portage and the Council are in disagreement,
32 and past experience strongly suggests that it isn't necessarily the
33 Council that's going to come out on top here...
35 > Anyway, yes, reviewing is necessary, but if essential changes from my
36 > point of view are blocked or stonewalled through that means, I may
37 > choose to take action.eas
39 Your point of view isn't relevant when it's wrong. You're supposed to
40 be working with other people here, not committing first and then
41 tidying up the mess later.
43 > > * Don't mess with kdebuild until you're sure that no-one has any
44 > > kdebuild packages installed.
45 >
46 > Don't be too academic. To be sure is not possible. And please don't
47 > speak about bridge construction and failure possibilites when you
48 > don't know about how an engineering process works.
50 You could have achieved a high degree of confidence with very little
51 difficulty. Instead, this whole mess is spilling over and affecting
52 users, and wasting far too much of a lot of people's time for something
53 that should have been done without any mess or user impact.
55 --
56 Ciaran McCreesh


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