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Hello |
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Probably Zac already remembers my suggestion of: |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413619 |
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Sorry for insisting a bit on it but this issue bites me periodically. |
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Months ago, I was able to administrate myself some of my father and |
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uncles systems in their jobs and homes but, since I moved to Madrid this |
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year, I am not able to administrate them directly. They usually do a |
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good job maintaining them, the only issue I see they hit from time to |
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time is forgetting to run JUST AFTER updating their systems |
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revdep-rebuild (well, this is so common that they usually don't forget |
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to), rebuild dbus-glib/gobject-introspection after major glib update, |
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rebuild X11 drivers... |
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This is because, even if all this information is recorded |
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in /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log, currently, that log file is |
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cluttered of a lot of other elog lines that are not related at all with |
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this important task of rebuilding packages. This is why I suggested: |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413619 |
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That would create a new "erebuild" (or whatever the name you prefer) to |
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ONLY contain exact command to run by admin to have a safe system after |
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update. It would have as main advantage: |
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- Looks easier to implement. |
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- It relies in current and existing tools (python-updater, perl-cleaner, |
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"q", equery...), then, they could be used just now via a script running |
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all of them. |
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- It also looks much more "professional" to try to unify a bit what |
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commands to run ;) (currently, some ebuilds tells you to manually |
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re-emerge packages and some people wrongly run "emerge dbus-glib" when |
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they should run "emerge -1 dbus-glib". Telling us to people what exact |
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command they need to copy&paste&run will help to get their systems |
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cleaner also. |
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Zac kindly pointed me to: |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192319 |
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The problem of that one is that, even if it would be "the perfect |
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solution": |
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- Looks to be stalled for a long time. |
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- Looks to need a lot of functions (like revdep-rebuild, |
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python-updater...) to be merged in portage itself. It will then probably |
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take a lot of time to get them integrated (specially seeing we are still |
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not able to use preserve-libs because it looks to cause some other |
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problems) |
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- In that bug report I have also seen discussion about whether handle |
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this only via SLOTs (that personally think it will be even harder to |
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achieve for all packages in the tree showing this kind of problems when |
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updating, for example, I doubt how "glib" - "dbus-glib/g-i" case could |
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be handled in this way. |
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- Looks like there is no consensus about what to do and, then, this |
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could probably be implemented on eapi... 7? While former could probably |
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be implemented much sooner (probably even in eapi5) |
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This is why I think we should try to push a bit my first suggestion for |
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the short term until "the perfect one" is ready as, until then, we are |
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having for years a problem that, personally, I think it should be |
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handled a bit better. |
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Thanks a lot for your attention |
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