Gentoo Archives: gentoo-portage-dev

From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Security and Comparison of Portage with other Package Managers
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 02:31:50
Message-Id: 54FBB490.4010507@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Security and Comparison of Portage with other Package Managers by Brian Dolbec
1 On 03/07/2015 05:24 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
2 > On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:26:26 -0800
3 > Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> On 03/06/2015 09:50 AM, Mark Kubacki wrote:
6 >>> We're on the same side here.
7 >>>
8 >>> Do we have numbers showing the ratio "portage used with defaults"
9 >>> vs. where "[webrsync-gpg] is described in many hardening guides for
10 >>> gentoo and widely used among the security conscious" applies?
11 >>>
12 >>> DNS not being encrypted is just painting the whole picture. Point
13 >>> is, the default is that "emerge --sync" results in a transfer using
14 >>> RSYNC (or http).
15 >>>
16 >>> And by default you cannot compare the result with any authoritative
17 >>> source.
18 >>>
19 >>
20 >> Ideally, we can rely on security mechanisms built into git [1],
21 >> possibly involving signed commits.
22 >>
23 >> [1] https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo-portage-rsync-mirror
24 >
25 >
26 > Actually, git makes it nearly impossible to get the correct info
27 > required to re-process the git commit signature. It is all embedded
28 > into the commit itself, but not in a way for gpg to be able to
29 > re-verify it. Git relies on the issuer's gpg verification status which
30 > it records in it's data before the push. So, without some major
31 > hacking on git data, it is not viable for routine verification purposes.
32
33 Maybe we can use the relatively recently added git verify-commit command
34 [1]. If we run that command with --verbose, then we can use that to
35 verify that that a commit was signed with a trusted key. Shouldn't
36 verification of the HEAD commit be enough to vouch for the integrity of
37 the entire tree?
38
39 [1]
40 https://github.com/git/git/commit/d07b00b7f31d0cb6675b4bdba269ce7f087ddd24
41 --
42 Thanks,
43 Zac

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