Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Atom matching behavior

[Brian Harring]

On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 09:11:35PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 31 July 2006 18:48, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Should be discussed on -dev, not here imo;
>
> why ?  short term we're gaining functionality:
> simply add .*

1) portage isn't the only package manager
2) it's not a backwards compatible change
3) EAPI was added explicitly to address issues stemming from #2, and 
it's also an excuse to role out at least 
3a) default src_install
3b) final cleanup of DEPEND=${DEPEND-${RDEPEND}} and friends
3c) any cleanup reqiurements needed (fex, disallowing direct vdb 
access and requiring usage of new metadata functionality).
3d) potentially splitting out a src_configure (potentially a pipe 
dream till eclass2 occurs).

Granted, that stuff isn't strictly required (although most of it's 
simple changes), but the fact is that portage will _not_ handle .* 
properly now means it's an EAPI bump for incompatibility versioning.

Since it has to be versioned, might as well throw in a few other 
things that have been held up for similar reasons.


> if we want to go long term and cut #*, then we can chat on gentoo-dev

A) doesn't hurt to ask
B) doesn't take any real time to ask
C) someone might have a suggestion on better way to do the 
representation.
D) folks are at least aware of what's occuring, rather then having 300 
devs gradually screw up and find out that .* started working at some 
point (as was how .* died off iirc).

Plus, it's a real bitch when something slides in and gets deployed, 
along comes someone pointing out some corner case they think needs 
fixing.  Doubt that will occur, but the "yo... this is going to be 
changing" is required imo.

~harring