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From: tvali <qtvali@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:30:43
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge by Fabian Groffen
1 So, mornings are smarter than evenings (it's Estonian saying) night, I
2 thought more about this filesystem thing and found that it simply answers
3 all needs, actually. Now I did read some messages here and thought how it
4 could be made real simple, at least as I understand this word. Yesterday I
5 searched if custom filesystems could have custom functionality and did not
6 find any, so I wrote this list of big bunch of classes, which might be
7 overkill as I think now.
9 First thing about that indexing - if you dont create daemon nor filesystem,
10 you can create commands "emerge --indexon", "emerge --indexoff", "emerge
11 --indexrenew". Then, index is renewed on "emerge --sync" and such, but when
12 user changes files manually, she has to renew index manually - not much
13 asked, isn't it? If someone is going to open the cover of her computer, she
14 will take the responsibility to know some basic things about electricity and
15 that they should change smth in bios after adding and removing some parts of
16 computer. Maybe it should even be "emerge --commithandmadechanges", which
17 will index or do some other things, which are needed after handmade changes.
18 More such things might emerge in future, I guess.
20 But about filesystem...
22 Consider such thing that when you have filesystem, you might have some
23 directory, which you could not list, but where you can read files. Imagine
24 some function, which is able to encode and decode queryes into filesystem
25 format.
27 If you have such function: search(packagename, "dependencies") you can write
28 it as file path:
29 /cgi-bin/search/packagename/dependencies - and packagename can be encoded by
30 replacing some characters with some codes and separating long strings with
31 /. Also, you could have API, which has one file in directory, from where you
32 can read some tmp filename, then write your query to that file and read the
33 result from the same or similarly-named file with different extension. So,
34 FS provides some ways to create custom queries - actually that idea came
35 because there was idea of creating FS as cgi server on LUFS page, thus this
36 "cgi-bin" starting here is to simplify. I think it's similar to how files in
37 /dev/ directory behave - you open some file and start writing and reading,
38 but this file actually is zero-sized and contains nothing.
40 Under such case, API could be written to provide this filesystem and nothing
41 more. If it is custom-mapped filesystem, then it could provide search and
42 such directories, which can be used by portage and others. If not, it would
43 work as it used to.
45 So, having filesystem, which contains such stuff (i call this subdir "dev"
46 here):
48 - /dev/search - write your query here and read the result.
49 - /dev/search/searchstring - another way for user to just read some
50 listings with her custom script.
51 - /portage/directory/category/packagename/ - contains dynamic
52 list of package dependencies.
53 - /dev/version - some integer, which will grow every time any change to
54 portage tree is made.
56 Then, other functions would be added eventually.
58 Now, things simple:
60 - Create standard filesystem, which can be used to contain portage tree.
61 - Add all nessecary notifications to change and update files.
62 - *Mount this filesystem to the same dir, where actual files are placed -
63 if it's not mounted, portage will almost not notice this (so in emergency,
64 things are just slower). You can navigate to a directory, then mount new one
65 - I am not on linux box right now, but if I remember correctly, you can use
66 files in real directory after mounting smth other there in such way.*
67 - Create indexes and other stuff.
69 2008/11/24 Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o>
71 > On 24-11-2008 10:34:28 +0100, René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote:
72 > > tvali schrieb:
73 > > > There is daemon, which notices about filesystem changes -
74 > > > would be a good choice.
75 > >
76 > > Disadvantage: Has to run all the time (I see already some people crying:
77 > > "oh noez. not yet another daemon...").
78 >
79 > ... and it is Linux only, which spoils the fun.
80 >
81 >
82 > --
83 > Fabian Groffen
84 > Gentoo on a different level
85 >
86 >
89 --
90 tvali
92 Kuskilt foorumist: - kui inglise keelt oskad.
93 Muide, üle 120 oled väga tark, üle 140 oled geenius, mingi 170 oled ju mingi
94 täica pea nagu prügikast...


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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge tvali <qtvali@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge "René 'Necoro' Neumann" <lists@××××××.eu>