Gentoo Archives: gentoo-portage-dev

From: Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@g.o>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Improved user information and communication
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:35:45
Message-Id: 200510011417.28373.jstubbs@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-portage-dev] Improved user information and communication by Daniel Stiefelmaier
1 On Saturday 01 October 2005 14:01, Daniel Stiefelmaier wrote:
2 > I'd like to introduce two ideas i had to improve portage.
3
4 I haven't had an idea introduced to me that was new for at least a year..
5 Patches are more interesting.
6
7 > sometimes i'd like to know something more about a package before i
8 > emerge it.
9 >
10 > 1. release notes. (for the ebuild, not the application)
11 > as a release notes file exists, a parameter could be used to show the
12 > most recent entry.
13 > maybe this fits "eix" better than "emerge"
14
15 emerge --changelog ?
16
17 > 2. advanced package info
18 > most important here is an explanation of the available use flags. i know
19 > there is a list of most flags (http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml)
20 > but it is incomplete and doesnt explain some flags well. some have
21 > different behaviour in different packages.
22 > some flags are self-explanatory, but some are not. for example, the
23 > "xprint" comment should say, that this is not necessary to print, and
24 > under what circumstances it is needed.
25
26 This should go to gentoo-dev@g.o as ebuild developers are the ones that decide
27 what USE flags are available and how they're documented.
28
29 > also, the advanced could provide
30 > - links to howto's (like configuring apache)
31
32 This is out of the domain of a package in any package management system IMO.
33
34 > - list packages that are of use for this (plugins or utilized apps like
35 > cervisia that integrates in quanta plus)
36
37 Do you mean finding packages that depend on that package in question?
38
39 > - tell how to contact the ebuild maintainer
40
41 metadata.xml. This information is printed out when using -vv in
42 portage-2.1_alpha.
43
44 > that led my to another idea: a wiki for all ebuilds in portage.
45 > all the information could then be in the wiki, and eix/emerge just print
46 > the wiki-link.
47 > i'd suggest mediawiki, as it has a discussion page attached.
48 > maybe the wiki itself can only be changed by developers, and feedback is
49 > given on the discussion page.
50
51 Personally, I hate most wikis. 9 times out of 10, they are full of
52 half-correct information. This makes them all the more dangerous as the
53 "average Joe" can't tell what's correct and what isn't.
54
55 > just some ideas, maybe needing some development, i hope you find them
56 > useful. :)
57
58 Ideas are "a dime, a dozen".
59
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61 Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Improved user information and communication Daniel Stiefelmaier <mail@××××××××××.de>