Gentoo Archives: gentoo-portage-dev

From: George Shapovalov <george@g.o>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@g.o, gentoo-dev@g.o
Cc: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@g.o>, dholm@g.o
Subject: [gentoo-portage-dev] portage-ng concurse entry Was: Updated Portage project page
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:57:05
1 Sorry for the crosspost, but it looks like this topic is approximately
2 equivalently active on either lis, and I did not find the "submission
3 instructions" perhaps because its not yet time for design submits :)..
5 On Wednesday 03 December 2003 15:08, Daniel Robbins wrote:
6 > I haven't looked at twisted, but a good solution suggested by nerdboy is
7 > to have a design competition once we have the requirements finalized.
9 So, we are going to do it according to "accepted practices" :).
10 Seriously, I am glad to see it! And here is my entry ;).
12 Well, this really is a proposal of the language to use for core stuff, not as
13 much of a design. Ever since the implementation in Prolog was mentioned I was
14 keeping some thoughts on the backburner and finally I decided to do a
15 competing entry, for the reason's I'll try to outline.
17 I have them nicely wrapped up here:
20 To reiterate them shortly, Prolog is a really esoteric language and I am not
21 sure we will be able to find enough people to feel comfortable about having
22 the very core of portage-ng implemented in it. Also there might be issues of
23 portability and efficiency..
25 On the other hand I understand the desire to stay clear off the C/C++ use and
26 completely support it. Therefore I propose a middle-ground solution, to use a
27 common compiled procedural language that was designed to enhance readability,
28 modularization and ease maintaince of a large system. Oh, it is also very
29 portable and widely awailable and is alive and well supported.
30 What else? It took me only about two weeks (of like 1-2 hrs per day of
31 reading) to get into it and sturt crunching out some code when I decided to
32 learn it :).. (not Hellow World, but real code, mind you).
34 But read-on for the details..
36 However that's not all. I have produced some basic prototyping code to
37 illustrate what could be expected. The prototype is quite crude, as I did
38 this during relatively rare breaks from writing an article (completely
39 unrelated to CS :)), but it should serve the purpose. Did I say the code
40 shoul be readable? So, even though I do not expect many people to be familiar
41 with that language I would still suggest trying to look at the code. You are
42 in for a one nice surprise ;).
43 (I am not revealing the name of language in this posting deliberately, because
44 I want people to read through arguments first).
46 The code is available here:
48 but you will probably want to read the text before that.
50 In any case, if you want to jump in, just a short install instruction:
51 run "emerge gnat booch_components "
52 then untar the package and run make
53 Although reading INSTALL that comes with the package might be usefull too ;)
54 (it has some details in case you experience problems).
56 George
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