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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: [PATCH] egencache: Delay updating Manifests until all other tasks complete
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:01:11
Message-Id: 56464F8C.5010200@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: [PATCH] egencache: Delay updating Manifests until all other tasks complete by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On 11/13/2015 12:25 PM, Duncan wrote:
2 > Alexander Berntsen posted on Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:17:28 +0100 as excerpted:
3 >
4 >> On 12/11/15 16:00, Michał Górny wrote:
5 >>> their generation should be run as the lask task done by egencache,
6 >>> followed only by timestamp update.
7 >
8 >> Is "lask" supposed to be "last"? Also, "last except not last" is not
9 >> very good English. The word you seem to be looking for is "penultimate".
10 >> (Which would make the "only" redundant.)
11 >
12 > FWIW, while "penultimate" is unarguably correct, it's also in some
13 > regional dialects (US at least) rather rare and high-register, and is in
14 > fact a newish (within the year, and I'm nearing 50) addition to my own
15 > vocabulary.
16 >
17 > The more common wording I'm far more familiar with, to the point of
18 > defining penultimate in terms of it in "the dictionary in my head", is
19 > "next-to-last".
20 >
21 > [After checking...] Wictionary seems to agree, saying penultimate is
22 > British, in US it's considered formal/literary/scholarly, what I termed
23 > high register. It defines penultimate in terms of next to last (or more
24 > archaic, last but one, tho in the US that's now seen as a Britishism too,
25 > see usage notes) as well. (Meanwhile, I seriously can't picture /anyone/
26 > using "propreantepenultimate" except as a joke!)
27 >
28
29 There's a nice little discussion here:
30
31 http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/58959/is-penultimate-commonly-used
32
33 I haven't seen penultimate used much. "Next to last" is much more common
34 in my experience.
35 --
36 Thanks,
37 Zac

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