Gentoo Archives: gentoo-portage-dev

From: James Beddek <telans@××××××.de>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] portage.output: Replace darkblue colors with teal
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 09:50:54
Message-Id: 10440824.nUPlyArG6x@desktop
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] portage.output: Replace darkblue colors with teal by Fabian Groffen
1 On Saturday, 4 December 2021 10:47:53 PM NZDT Fabian Groffen wrote:
2 > On 04-12-2021 10:24:23 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > On Sat, 2021-12-04 at 10:15 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote:
4 > > > On 04-12-2021 10:13:09 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
5 > > > > On Sat, 2021-12-04 at 09:56 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote:
6 > > > > > Why don't you change your color.map instead of changing the default
7 > > > > > for
8 > > > > > everyone?
9 > > > >
10 > > > > Why should we keep a stupid default? Should we optimize Gentoo for
11 > > > > people who don't want to be able to read Portage's output?
12 > > >
13 > > > You're assuming everyone uses the terminal in the way you do. I simply
14 > > > don't think that's how the world looks like.
15 > >
16 > > On the other hand, you're assuming that everyone uses the terminal
17 > > in the way you do.
18 >
19 > It eludes me how you came to that conclusion.
20 >
21 > > > No need for calling things stupid, IMO.
22 > >
23 > > Using dark blue on black background is stupid.
24 >
25 > ... then don't use black background or dark blue text?
26 >
27 > Now, if you would make a supported claim that all terminals we install
28 > use a black background by default, your change becomes more valid.
29 >
30
31 Well IMO, teal is still easy to read against a black & white background, where
32 darkblue is almost impossible on black. This just seems like a sensible
33 default
34
35 > However, we then still don't know if people leave that default or use
36 > something else, but we could make some educated guess about the amount
37 > of people not changing the default.
38 >
39 > My point, because I think this wasn't clear to you, is and always was,
40 > how many people is this change going to be disruptive to. And should
41 > we make a hint to users when they install this version of Portage that
42 > they can revert/change this by altering color.map (and how)?
43 >
44 > Thanks,
45 > Fabian

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