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On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 11:08 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote: |
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> On 24.02.2020 10:47, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > On Sat, 2020-02-22 at 22:35 -0800, Alec Warner wrote: |
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> > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:39 PM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > |
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> > > > On Fri, 2020-02-21 at 22:11 +0000, Roy Bamford wrote: |
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> > > > > This 'revision' group alread exists. Its called the Gentoo council. |
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> > > > > Unless, that is, council have no oversight of comrel? |
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> > > > No, that's not how things work. You don't have an appeal body |
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> > > > proactively look into what all projects are doing. |
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> > > > |
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> > > I think by definition this is reactive. Comrel publishes a report[0], and |
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> > > the Council[1] reviews it. |
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> > I thought we've already established that the reports are meaningless. |
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> > The way I see it, your system basically means that, repeatedly: |
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> > 1. ComRel does their job. |
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> > |
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> > 2. ComRel wastes their time publishing a meaningless report. |
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> > 3. Since the report is meaningless, Council has to audit ComRel's work. |
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> > Since digging for past data is usually more effort than processing it |
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> > as it flows, Council may as well start proactively auditing everything. |
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> > Except that's not its purpose, and I don't see why we should throw |
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> > random extra tasks on their plate just because. |
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> > |
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> > In my opinion, if we are to go for auditing ComRel, we should select |
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> > a separate group of people for that, people that choose to put their |
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> > effort into auditing rather than incidentally get dragged into it. |
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> > Furthermore, I believe this group should not have any direct deciding |
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> > power. Instead, they should bring any issues their find to ComRel's |
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> > attention and/or appeal them to the Council. |
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> > |
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> This is meaningless also, because an individual who finds ComRel |
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> decision unacceptable can appeal to Council directly, you do not need |
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> third party layer here. |
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The individual can only judge the reply to his own request. He lacks |
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the wider context to audit the process and decisions (or lack of them) |
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wrt multiple different requests. |
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This works both ways. People are also making accusations and claim |
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about ComRel based on what they guess might be happening. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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