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On 12/05/11 11:52, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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> On Sunday 04 December 2011 22:42:46 Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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>> On 12/05/11 10:49, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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>>>> And spend much more time trying to find them silly logfiles now that we |
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>>>> hide the output. I really enjoy having to fix yet another bad default |
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>>>> everywhere just so I see *why* things fail ... |
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>>> Unless something has changed the logfile name including full path is |
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>>> printed when there is an error. So, it is just a matter of copy/paste |
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>>> into a cat and you can watch the whole thing scroll by and even |
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>>> pretend it is compiling really fast while it is doing it. :) |
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>> So one useless step added, which might give extra funny output because |
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>> of escaped escape sequences and such funnies, with no benefit for me |
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> uhh, no. cat on the log files works perfectly fine in any sane terminal. |
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Unless the build system became extra happy ... |
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> |
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>>> It seems like a pretty sane default to assume that most packaged build |
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>>> without issues - after all, that is basically the goal, right? |
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>> And for those I don't care about the output at all, but when things fail |
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>> I want to see it. |
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> it's hard to have a conversation when you don't even verify your statements. |
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> when a build fails, it outputs the entire log. thus your statement here makes |
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> no sense at all. |
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Not all failures are errors, only errors are shown |
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So I'm still left wondering why things didn't go as planned, but at that |
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point the log has already been removed and I have to rebuild things |
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after remembering to change defaults ... not that this happened to me or |
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anything like that, just that it has happened to me twice now and I'm |
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getting tired of spending time on changing defaults that should be sane. |
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>> So for me the proper default is "show everything, let me ignore what I |
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>> don't want" |
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> then change your defaults |
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> -mike |
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One machine at a time I am ... one chroot at a time ... |
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