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From: desultory <desultory@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@g.o>, forum-mods@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Appeals of Moderation Decisions
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 04:59:58
Message-Id: dd83ca32-acb7-7217-9752-a8d41581f636@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Appeals of Moderation Decisions by "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn"
1 On 02/03/19 20:38, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
2 > Kristian Fiskerstrand schrieb:
3 >
4 >>>>>> And parts of forums should rather go away sooner than later, given
5 >>>>>> how
6 >>>>>> even
7 >>>>>> moderators take part in highly questionable threads. That mess also
8 >>>>>> reflects on Gentoo as a whole.
9 >>>>>
10 >>>>> To be more concrete here if we want to put it on the agenda, we're
11 >>>>> talking about OTW only, or are there other categories etc that are
12 >>>>> non-gentoo-related on official communication channels?
13 >>>>
14 >>>> My main point is that OTW needs to be nuked from orbit.
15 >>>
16 >>> That seems to be a good place to start in any case
17 >>>
18 >>
19 >> What are the forum-mods thoughts (as a team) on the matter of non-gentoo
20 >> related, and seemingly inappropriate, discussion happening in the forums?
21 >
22 > Those of you who are long enough with Gentoo might remember the drama
23 > around forum members' political user avatars and other forum members
24 > taking offense at those and demanding their censorship, which (iirc)
25 > ultimately lead to retirement of one or more Gentoo developers.
26 >
27 > I suggest keeping this in mind before restarting the discussion of what
28 > is allowed on the forums and what not.
29 >
30 > On the topic of "reflects on Gentoo as a whole", is there actual
31 > evidence of someone making negative remarks about Gentoo as a whole,
32 > pointing to an OTW threat for the argument?
33 >
34 So far as I am aware, none worth noting, present or otherwise. (Those
35 not otherwise worth noting being disgruntled, former, users who were in
36 reality mostly just complaining that people had the temerity to treat
37 rules as though they applied to them; I can think of no reason to
38 consider their remarks to be useful or individually noteworthy.)
39
40 > A compromise / an alternative to removing OTW (if deemed a bad thing)
41 > would be to limit its public reach by allowing only registered forum
42 > users to access it.
43 >
44 Barring objections from other moderators, I have no objections to that
45 compromise.
46
47 >
48 > Best regards,
49 > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
50 >