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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:24:53
Message-Id: 4E3D3270.8070105@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years by Markos Chandras
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4 On 06-08-2011 11:59, Markos Chandras wrote:
5 > On 08/06/2011 12:49 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
6 >> On 06-08-2011 11:00:16 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
7 >>> Oh come on Jorge. You know what I mean by slacking arches. I am
8 >>> not talking about punishing them. Maybe drop stable keywords or
9 >>> drop keyword from X package and shrink their tree so they can
10 >>> keep up with the load.
11 >>>
12 >>>> This should be the arch more developers use daily and is
13 >>>> likely the one with more members (herd count). Also, one should
14 >>>> remember the time it takes to compile, test or debug an issue
15 >>>> in a recent amd64 system or an old / slow box with an "exotic
16 >>>> arch" varies substantially. Not to mention that the amount of
17 >>>> testing done on "exotic arches" varies substantially between
18 >>>> projects.
19 >>> I am aware of the problems and this is way I want a solution.
20 >
21 >> And what solution do you have in mind (in your Council role)?
22 >
23 >
24 > Drop stable keywords for certain arches and/or remove their keywords
25 > from X packages. The idea is to keep only a single and smaller
26 > portage tree which would be much more easier to manage. Pretty much
27 > the same situation as MIPS. It worked pretty well on MIPS, so it will
28 > work on these arches too
29
30 If you talk to Mike, Raúl and Matt, I'm sure they'll tell you that
31 trying to get an arch out of testing status to supported is a nightmare.
32 AFAIK that was already done once for arm and is happening now for mips.
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34 About the arches with >200 stable bugs, should we have dropped KDE from
35 the tree when for years we had >300 open bugs? Should we stop doing
36 releases if we have >100 open bugs? What about mysql with >50 open bugs,
37 etc?
38 Furthermore, there have been many complaints from arches with a high
39 number of stable bugs that by the time they were working on a stable
40 bug, a maintainer either dropped the version they were testing or
41 somewhere else in the tree someone decided to drop their keywords and
42 got their tree broken.
43 Some arch team members may take a while to reply at times but some
44 maintainers also "help" increasing the AT work load by not thinking
45 about arches now and then.
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47 - --
48 Regards,
49
50 Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
51 Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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