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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:24:53
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years by Markos Chandras
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On 06-08-2011 11:59, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 08/06/2011 12:49 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> On 06-08-2011 11:00:16 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> Oh come on Jorge. You know what I mean by slacking arches. I am >>> not talking about punishing them. Maybe drop stable keywords or >>> drop keyword from X package and shrink their tree so they can >>> keep up with the load. >>> >>>> This should be the arch more developers use daily and is >>>> likely the one with more members (herd count). Also, one should >>>> remember the time it takes to compile, test or debug an issue >>>> in a recent amd64 system or an old / slow box with an "exotic >>>> arch" varies substantially. Not to mention that the amount of >>>> testing done on "exotic arches" varies substantially between >>>> projects. >>> I am aware of the problems and this is way I want a solution. > >> And what solution do you have in mind (in your Council role)? > > > Drop stable keywords for certain arches and/or remove their keywords > from X packages. The idea is to keep only a single and smaller > portage tree which would be much more easier to manage. Pretty much > the same situation as MIPS. It worked pretty well on MIPS, so it will > work on these arches too
If you talk to Mike, Raúl and Matt, I'm sure they'll tell you that trying to get an arch out of testing status to supported is a nightmare. AFAIK that was already done once for arm and is happening now for mips. About the arches with >200 stable bugs, should we have dropped KDE from the tree when for years we had >300 open bugs? Should we stop doing releases if we have >100 open bugs? What about mysql with >50 open bugs, etc? Furthermore, there have been many complaints from arches with a high number of stable bugs that by the time they were working on a stable bug, a maintainer either dropped the version they were testing or somewhere else in the tree someone decided to drop their keywords and got their tree broken. Some arch team members may take a while to reply at times but some maintainers also "help" increasing the AT work load by not thinking about arches now and then. - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJOPTJvAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPMxsP/ixoyYdoMj2kUycQzzlGRKva YXRF3r5q3yhXeO/2FvNXX6pne6frsG05U94YtRXFFBAQ93DNvjKQBugu8yKj3aSr JzJbWOcy7D7LdYNOEu9gEODh0ruxnk+r1EkVkmotLMqgB7ii+eEYOGinupP5TFyv BM76JmWi46/5k9cw05W37oYWWwuzDXizFj6S3jFHlPyElhx3+b/yT0QRTkQAHG0R KirKjQLIGFuz3sEgoUpJmz8gOL54tx5LGvoGJCxO95vwTJ6z6G8irouvsJQcF9Ws wNf9vaOLk0HKxo0S3KgDUKCgzpd1qcntnyfgaVY5YHL2jXkBYlul7y2KwDV4/31G bL8pHrOcv6MsVXsIX2GTuqHiXANU72qNckAYchE/Iw5hj+QZnYYPa4QVTEdp9a+n 8QpB993QOZCcRnG6V+NXd+883GLZDrdT8Y7C8yXI9ZlDTMC94i85S/IutErysOPq 2X6HRlvfht+YznN84te7pHa1iUlgyaPBRy/38Auub/QbzHu9JDiMrGXeu4OYH1qN vc/m73oYz2n43jEQwvvfXBvMBrzbmXTG/Kb75YBOcFT3lyQt6PSSs2t74cvkN5Yv RY7f6w2cLit7ppkhd8bJAF4wVl9vGSZkhR7woW/rfUNfwul9VF3dVY4AsbB5e4Ff Q4ks4M77uMYGevXHi3Py =4Mu4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----