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From: Ferris McCormick <fmccor@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 01:08:11
Message-Id: 20080518010759.3693972d@anaconda.krait.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting by Simon Cooper
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4 On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:46:37 +0100
5 Simon Cooper <thecoop@××××××.com> wrote:
6
7 > As a random user, could I just make a couple of points?
8 >
9
10 I'm replying just to say I think you've summed it up pretty well.
11
12 > I think it is agreed that the GLEP says there should be a re-election;
13 > the current discussion is to whether the GLEP should be followed. May I
14 > ask what the point of the GLEP was if parts of it are going to be
15 > ignored on a whim?
16 >
17 > Yes, it is harsh, but that is what the rules say. Not obeying your /own/
18 > rules when they are inconvenient sets a very bad precedent. If, at some
19 > point in the future, gentoo does get a slacker council, then when faced
20 > with being replaced they could say something like 'but you ignored the
21 > GLEP at this instance, and this is the same situation because of yadda
22 > yadda yadda...'. Even if what's being said is complete rubbish it will
23 > significantly slow down the process of getting a new council simply
24 > because there has been this one exception made. Furthermore, the reason
25 > given (there wasn't enough advertising about the meeting given out) is
26 > quite nebulous - 'enough advertising' can mean /anything/. Making this
27 > one exception also makes it easier for greater exceptions in the future
28 > (the whole 'slipperly slope' argument).
29 >
30 > If people don't like the clause, then the new council can vote to remove
31 > it. No one would disagree with that. But you _cannot_ simply ignore
32 > parts of GLEPs that turn out to be inconvenient. Doing so sets a bad
33 > precedent that could be a lot more damaging to gentoo in the future than
34 > the small inconvenience of having a council election a couple of months
35 > early, and indeed undermines the GLEP itself as something that is seen
36 > as optional. It will also ensure all council meetings are properly
37 > advertised in the future, which can only be a good thing.
38 >
39 > Simon Cooper
40 > --
41 > gentoo-project@l.g.o mailing list
42 >
43
44 Regards,
45 Ferris
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47 Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o>
48 Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Devrel, Userrel, Trustees)
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