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Rich, |
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I think you missed a lot of points I was making. |
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On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 03:21:25PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:37:57PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: |
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> >> hasufell schrieb: |
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> >> >> They can each have their own ebuild in portage. I do not think that overlays |
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> >> >> are the solution here. |
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> >> > |
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> >> > That idea is so bad I hope we will never see it happen. |
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> >> That's what GLEP 39 explictly allows. |
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> > I have to agree on this point. glep 39 allows, and should allow |
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> > competing projects. |
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> GLEP 39 ALLOWS me to make a competing apache ebuild, or a competing |
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> amd64 arch. It doesn't FORCE me to do so. |
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> If all I want to do is introduce some optional feature distro-wide |
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> that doesn't impact anybody who doesn't want to use it (aside from |
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> trivial numbers of inodes), then I shouldn't HAVE to fork every |
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> package in the tree to do it. |
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I am agreeing with you on this. I never said that glep 39 forces you to |
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do anything. |
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> I'm a developer because I'm also a user. Nobody pays me to work on |
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> ebuilds - I'm scratching my itch. Nobody is asking maintainers to |
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> scratch somebody else's itch - they just have to stay out of the way |
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> when somebody else chooses to do so. |
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Agreed; this is all about cooperation instead of being territorial. |
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> > By the nature of being a source based distribution, we can offer a |
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> > uniform user experience without being a poor copy of any binary |
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> > distribution, and that uniform user experience could be far more |
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> > flexable than any binary distribution. |
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> Absolutely, but that flexibility depends on a certain amount of |
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> standardization. |
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I'm not contesting this. Honestly I'n not quite sure how to respond to |
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anything else in this message because I agree with you as I said in my |
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manifesto. I feel like maintainers should cooperate with other |
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projects/teams/developers. |
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William |