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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008]
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:05:58
Message-Id: 20080518170545.020f47a1@snowcone
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008] by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On Sun, 18 May 2008 11:55:46 -0400
2 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o> wrote:
3 > On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 16:45 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
4 > > On Sun, 18 May 2008 11:42:08 -0400
5 > > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wltjr@g.o> wrote:
6 > > >
7 > > > If it's not a GLEP then what is it then? What are we following or
8 > > > not?
9 > >
10 > > That's already been answered in this thread far too many times.
11 > > Please read before posting.
12 >
13 > I have read and re-read. It's only until recent postings/comments are
14 > we starting to say this is not a GLEP. It's not part of the Bylaws.
15 > So what is it? How official is it? Who enforces it?
16
17 It's effectively in a class of its own. So far as I know, it's the only
18 policy document that's been accepted based upon a global vote.
19
20 > Re-reading, just brings me across more reference to it being a GLEP.
21
22 It's referred to as 'GLEP 39' because that's where you find it. This is
23 unfortunate.
24
25 > Also if it's a constitution, or such for the council. Why is like ~70%
26 > of the document, talking about the past. Personal point of view from
27 > those writing the document. Things other than what section B is, and
28 > declares.
29
30 What's now called 'GLEP 39' was originally an emailed proposal written
31 by Grant as one of the things upon which developers could vote, with a
32 second email from me proposing the slacker clauses merged in.
33
34 The actual proposal voted in by developers was a text file in my ~ on
35 dev.g.o, which was just Grant's email with my additions.
36
37 > If more time was spent on clarifying section B, and less on talking
38 > about the past, problems, personal input/opinion. Things that would
39 > make this a much more official document, what ever it is. Then this
40 > mess would not exist, and we would have set policies and procedures to
41 > follow.
42
43 But that wasn't what was voted in.
44
45 > Instead we have a partial punishment, that doesn't mention at all
46 > how to go about enforcing it. As in council is stripped of power.
47
48 It says exactly how to go about enforcing it. An election has to be
49 held within a month of the meeting, in the same way that otherwise the
50 council has to hold an election once a year.
51
52 > Does the current council, still hold/wield any power from now until
53 > they are replaced? What is the extent/limitations of that power in the
54 > intern?
55
56 There's nothing about that in the accepted proposal.
57
58 --
59 Ciaran McCreesh

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