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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o> wrote: |
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> For everyone's information, sparc is in its current state because |
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> bender, our sparc development system hosted at OSUOSL died in April |
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> and Infra has not fixed it for whatever reason. |
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If nobody who uses Gentoo owns a sparc, why are we so concerned about |
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maintaining the architecture? |
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> I'd be happy to drop most keywords to ~arch (and Tobias |
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> and I have agreed to do exactly this for alpha). In my experience as a |
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> member of the MIPS team I can also tell you that fully ~arch is |
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> terrible for stage building -- you're constantly dealing with generic |
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> unstable problems and not with anything specific to the architecture |
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> or stage building. Dropping profiles to dev/exp only exacerbate this |
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> problem. |
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Well, then somebody on the sparc project team should just do it. They |
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don't need anybody's permission to do so. |
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If we don't have a sparc project team, and we don't have anybody who |
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even owns a sparc, then why are we worried about this in the first |
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place? |
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> As such, I suggest that instead we consider dropping everything |
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> outside of the @system set (and its dependencies) to ~arch for select |
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> architectures. This will ensure that the core system remains stable |
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> and stage building goes as smoothly as possible. With the |
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> significantly reduced stabilization work load, I suspect that the arch |
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> testers can keep up with keyword requests and stabilization requests |
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> for @system packages. |
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If the arch testers can't even manage to drop keywords, how are they |
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going to manage to keep up with stable requests on the @system set? |
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> I don't think we need council to be involved in this case. Please have |
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> a little more patience until this can be done. |
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Patience for who? |
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Who will do this, and when do they plan for it to be done? |
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If somebody wrote a post saying, "I realize this is a problem, I'm |
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taking over as the new sparc lead, give me a week or two to clean up |
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the keywords and we'll keep up on the rest of the stable requests" I |
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can't imagine that anybody would be anything but supportive. |
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This just comes across as "if we wait, maybe somebody will come." |
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Rich |