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On 26/01/17 15:46, Roy Bamford wrote: |
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> On 2017.01.26 15:03, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> [discussion intended at -nfp, CC-ing -project] |
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>> Hi, |
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>> I would like to add an additional clause to the Gentoo Social Contract |
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>> [1], to guarantee that Gentoo will remain a volunteer-based project |
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>> and will not turn into some kind of paid enterprise. The suggested |
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>> text |
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>> would be: |
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>> | Gentoo is and will remain independent volunteer work. We will never |
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>> | pay anyone to develop Gentoo, nor will we accept any donations given |
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>> | on the condition of any particular development. |
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>> Text improvements welcome. |
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> [snip] |
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>> [1]:https://www.gentoo.org/get-started/philosophy/social-contract.html |
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>> |
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>> -- |
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>> Best regards, |
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>> Michał Górny |
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>> <http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/> |
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> Michał, |
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> In general, I don't have a problem with this but it needs some fine tuning |
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> to permit 'bug bounties' and the like where there is a well defined scope |
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> of work which is good value for Gentoo to pay for for the end result. |
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> The Foundation has paid a bug bounty once that I an aware of. |
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> The discussion and vote is in the trustees meetings logs. |
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> What about non technical work? |
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> We may actually need to pay for legal and or financial advice and |
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> the like, where we cannot find pro bono support. |
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> If the intent was to rule out paid employees doing what they want and |
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> pushing Gentoo wherever they wanted it to go, its not going to happen |
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> any time soon. Gentoo cannot afford even a single full time employee. |
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> Then there are all the admin overheads associated with employee(s). |
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> In any case, paid employees are assigned work. That would be no |
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> different in Gentoo. Then maybe we would need paid managers too. |
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Whilst I support Roy's comments above, I do feel that actively |
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Preventing Gentoo from hiring people should a need be identified and |
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supported and carried by council/trustees/board/<insert authority here> |
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is a bad idea. Of course, the premise is that there is an identified |
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need, and the body to authorise such expenditure approves and/or can |
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justify it (being the "democratically" elected body). I don't suspect, |
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resource permitting, there is *any* desire from *anyone* with relevant |
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access to funds, to unilaterally "hire" people for the sake of it. |
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We seem to be badly obsessed with this principle that the devs (read |
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"community") do not have the same aims and objectives as the "council" |
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or the "trustees" and they all have their own motives and means. I |
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strongly believe that *IF* there are any members or contributors, |
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mindful of the Dev quiz questions and answers, who /don't/ believe and |
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strive for the key aims of a "Gentoo Mission Statement" should not be |
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either influencing or contributing significantly to the Gentoo name or |
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cause. We are here to build a linux distribution not to "Rule the |
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Roost", "Inflate our Ego" or "Furnish our Resume/CV/etc" "file taxes" |
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"carry out specific work for the benefit of any |
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individual/organisation/institution" etc, etc etc. Let's actually get |
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behind the same, common aim and get on with the work of building and |
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maintaining a linux distro and quit the bikeshed about who is pulling |
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the ropes this way or that. It's not a tug of war, a competition or |
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other sporting event. |