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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk>
Cc: gentoo-project@l.g.o, gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [project] Re: [RFC] some global useflags
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:19:49
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] [project] Re: [RFC] some global useflags by Steve Long
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk> wrote:
> Ryan Hill wrote: >> Steve Long wrote: >>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> > Steve Long wrote: >>> >> > Have a look at, for example, [1], where Mike already gave you an >>> >> > answer one of the previous times we discussed it. >>> >> > >>> >> I'm aware of the prior discussion. >>> >> Re-read it, and tell me what it breaks, if you can. >>> > >>> > Well, which part of the previous times it's been explained to you >>> > didn't you understand? >>> > >>> No one has ever given me a technical reason. I thought you might have >>> light to shed; clearly not. >>> >>> Please don't reply to my posts if you don't have any actual >>> information to add; I realise you like long fruitless mail >>> 'discussions', and apparently have lots of time for them, but I >>> don't, and I don't enjoy reading them either. This kind of one-liner >>> with zero content, and no intent but to insult, should simply be >>> binned without sending imo. >> >> Okay, Steve, stop. I don't think you realize it, but you are trolling >> this list. > That wasn't my intention; I added that comment simply to stop the flow of > one-line emails. > >> Every second post is you and Ciaran bitching at each other > I do wish one of you devs would pick him up on his behaviour _on the list_ > one of these days.. instead it's _always_ me who gets the flak. > > Or do you think his post was anything other than a "one-liner with zero > content, and no intent but to insult"? > >> or you complaining about every single thing we do that you >> don't personally like. > Not complaining, simply pointing out better ways to do things; a technical > discussion iow. The reason that has been more difficult a discussion than > it should be is because of the unpleasant comments from McCreesh, Ferdy and > Leverton.
Not all things are technical in nature.
> >> We appreciate your input, but please respect our >> right to do things the way we think is best for us, even if they aren't >> aligned to your personal preferences. >> > I was never under the impression that Gentoo devs would do anything other > than whatever they wanted. > > Can you tell me what a 'server' USE flag _breaks_? >
It breaks usability. I realize that is hard to measure but we have discussed this multiple times and have decided it is a Bad Idea for users and a Bad Idea for us. So it was not done. -Alec