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From: Matthias Dahl <ml_gentoo-lists@×××××××××××××.eu>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Recruiters need your help!
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:50:54
Message-Id: 5468818B.3000006@binary-island.eu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Recruiters need your help! by hasufell
1 On 15/11/14 14:43, hasufell wrote:
2
3 > We should recruit less people and instead make an effort to review other
4 > peoples overlays and include a list of high-quality overlays on our website.
5
6 Since every post in this thread has been (more or less) positive, I
7 would like to raise a word of caution though: For people who deploy
8 Gentoo to servers as well, trust (in the broadest sense) is an important
9 factor. Personally, I wouldn't feel too comfortable using a dozen or so
10 overlays by community members to get a proper LAPP stack together and
11 similar things. That is actually also one of the things I quite dislike
12 about ArchLinux (AUR) and Ubunutu (PPA).
13
14 On my desktop machine I only use overlays I trust that are maintained by
15 either official Gentoo herds/projects or individual devs.
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17 There is a sense of trust if something is in-tree that it is maintained
18 by people (devs) who actually know and care about what they do and that
19 there are certain protocols in place to deal with security issues and
20 avoid violations of any kind. All of that would be hard to orchestrate
21 in a distributed model like suggested.
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23 I know, reality is a bit different from that. But still, keeping only
24 core packages in-tree while pushing the rest into the hand of the
25 community... well... that is changing the picture entirely.
26
27 > The good part is: any dev can do this and it moves away from our broken
28 > centralized packaging model.
29 > In addition, this will take off workload from the recruiters team.
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31 Probably also lowering the influx of new developers even more, if the
32 single purpose is to work on "core" packages, the PM, infra and the
33 project itself.
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35 I don't want to start a flame war or sound in any way condescending, I
36 simply care about Gentoo too much that I would hate to see it take a
37 direction that could possibly be more harmful than helpful in the end.
38
39 Just my 2 cents...
40
41 So long,
42 Matthias <-- goes away now to hide somewhere save ;-)