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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo presence on Google+ pages?
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:42:40
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mSX0bowjF0oe7DowkXUqPx3sSx0pD+KVvMHP8p-LJ9Lg@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo presence on Google+ pages? by Donnie Berkholz
1 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o> wrote:
2 > On 19:25 Mon 07 Nov     , Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >> Well, that at least is enforceable. Once PR figures out which one is the
4 >> real one the trustees can probably send a polite note to the rest
5 >> explaining the situation and asking for the logo to be removed. Use of the
6 >> logo as an identifying mark should be limited to official use.
7 >>
8 >> (Not speaking officially for anybody but myself.)
9 >
10 > Meh. See trademark guidelines regarding community projects and sites.
11
12 That page actually needs a bit of an overhaul - this has been
13 discussed in the Trustee meetings for a few months now. The current
14 policy works but isn't very flexible for things like community sites
15 and such and addressed trademark law but not copyright law (which
16 applies to the logo).
17
18 That guideline you pointed to does not give community sites any rights
19 to use the logo - only the name "Gentoo." Read it carefully.
20
21 The non-commercial use guidelines of the logo would apply (assuming
22 the use is indeed non-commercial). So, a clear statement that the
23 site is NOT part of the Gentoo project or under the control of the
24 Gentoo Foundation would be required.
25
26 Anybody with thoughts around the Gentoo logo is welcome to
27 comment/participate in the discussion. One policy that has been
28 contrasted with Gentoo's is Debian's - which has separate logos for
29 community vs official use, and also which has clear guidelines on when
30 you can put it on stuff like servers/media/etc.
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32 The reality has been that we really haven't had many problems with
33 trademarks over the years and we're not exactly a litigious
34 organization. If a website were causing confusion and they really
35 were Gentoo supporters I imagine that they'd be cooperative.
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37 In any case, the intent of my email wasn't really to suggest that we
38 go running around sending out complaints, but more the opposite - to
39 indicate that we shouldn't panic over the site-creation stampede since
40 we do have the ability to sort it all out.
41
42 Rich